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AWL Summit 2020

Alone we can do little, together we can do more: the power of partnerships and positive effects of inclusion on our wellbeing

Queensland Health recognised International Women’s Day and Queensland Women’s Week with a full day summit designed to empower women to reach their full career potential. In its sixth year, the 2020 Aspiring Women Leaders' Summit was designed to look closely at the value of strong partnerships as we build momentum towards greater diversity and inclusion outcomes and wellbeing. The theme for the 2020 AWL Summit was 'Alone we can do little, together we can do more: the power of partnerships and positive effects of inclusion on our wellbeing'.

The Summit was open to aspiring leaders from across Queensland Health and other Queensland Government agencies—both men and women. Queensland Government employees at all classification levels were invited to attend and engage in productive conversations about the importance of partnering for diversity and inclusion. Attendees were able to:

  • gain inspiration and insight from a range of dynamic leaders
  • interact with presenters and other attendees, both face-to-face and digitally
  • learn about the importance of partnering for diversity and inclusion
  • expand and build professional networks.

2020 AWL Summit's video and audio recordings

Summit highlights

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Welcome to Country

Acknowledgement of traditional owners, Waveney Yasso

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Summit welcome

Jillian Whiting, MC

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Good morning everyone. Hello and welcome I thought Waveney was going to keep going so I was hoping she would. But can you please put your hands together for the amazing Waveney for that wonderful warming Welcome to Country. And some of you might recognize her if you've been to pub choir, such a beautiful singer, that was a lovely way to open this morning. Well good morning. Everybody my name is Jillian Whiting and I'm really honoured to be your MC for today. This is really an amazing event I've heard so much about it and I'm really excited to see all of the speakers today and join the other thing is nearly 1000 of you here in the room. So, I know we're in for a fantastic day, incredible speakers. So, we better get going. A very warm welcome to everyone here today and those joining us from anywhere in the world via Pop Up radio. Firstly, I'd like to acknowledge:

  • Barbara Phillips, Deputy Director-General, Corporate Services Division, Queensland Health and Summit Executive Sponsor
  • Clare O’Connor, Director-General, Department of Communities, Disability Services and Seniors
  • Deidre Mulkerin, Director-General, Department of Child Safety, Youth and Women
  • Robyn Littlewood, Chief Executive, Health and Wellbeing Queensland
  • Melissa Fox, Chief Executive Officer, Health Consumers Queensland
  • Beth Mohle, Secretary, QNMU
  • Haylene Grogan, Chief Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Health Officer

I’d also like to acknowledge the many sponsors of today’s event, including QSuper, PwC, BDO, QBank, QTC together with UQ, OnTalent and Brisbane Convention and Exhibition Centre. It is so wonderful an extremely important to have their support along with a shared understanding of the power of partnerships. We're looking forward to all of you today being involved in our conversation, so I need to remind you to download the Women's Network Events app and now instructions on how to download a download that on the back of your name tag. If you haven't done so already the BCC Wi-Fi is available if needed.

So the event app is really the key to your involvement today by generating discussion and creating partnerships and networks and you use the social wall just like you would Facebook or Instagram. So looking forward to hearing from you all today.

Our speakers will be taking questions from the audience, so ensure that you put those questions through the live Q&A icon in the app. If you want to remain anonymous, if you don't want to put a name to it when you're putting in those questions, just select the Incognito Button prior to posting your question. Yes, it is such a thing.

So, OK, we want to encourage all of you to take part in the networking game. And by taking part in that, you'll have a chance to win a really cool prize from one of the sponsors BDO. BDO as many of you know is one of the world's leading accountancy, an advisory organizations. They provide the capability and the depth of expertise of large global organisations with the approachability and relationship driven style that you would expect from a local firm. BDO’s Brisbane and Sunshine Coast officers have 66 partners with more than 520 staff providing a full range of audit, tax and advisory services. OK, so the prize that they're providing today is 2 tickets to the 2020 BDO business outlook event, which is on the 21st of August this year. It's a lunch event and it will be held at Howard Smith Wharves and it really is highly regarded as a Premier economic discussion and forum that's been running for over 10 years. So it's a great prize. So to win that prize or be in the running for that prize you need to head to the networking game icon on the app which have downloaded and start completing the goals, so you need to earn 100,000 points by the end of the day, to go into the draw, it sounds like a lot, but it's really not. It's very achievable and the winner will be announced at the end of the day and you do need to be in the room to receive your prize.

I'd also like to encourage all of you to go and visit the exhibitor stalls in the breaks today and one of our stalls has a fantastic service for you. It's a photographer taking professional head shots for you to be able to use to update your profile photo, and it's in both breaks. So a great prize, there so definitely take advantage of that. I'd also like to welcome Orange Sky laundry here today as our charity now Orange Sky Laundry is a non-profit organization which many of you I think of heard of, and they provide free mobile laundry and shower services to people experiencing homelessness. So, each week thousands of volunteers give up their time to help positively connect some of the 100 and 16,000 Australians doing it tough. The focus is on creating a safe, positive and supportive environment for people who are too often ignored or feel disconnected from the community. Over the past five years Orange Sky has completed 1 million 300,000 kilograms of laundry and provided more than 13,400 showers to people in need. Most importantly, though, volunteers have engaged in 230,000 hours of conversations, helping to positively connect communities all across Australia. So today Orange Sky Laundry team will be coming around to sell raffle tickets, and they've also going to stall in the Plaza Foyer. So, if you'd like to buy tickets directly from them, or if you have any questions about their services or how to get some help go and have a chat to them. The prizes for the Orange Sky Raffle, three perfume master classes at Libertine Parfumerie for you and 11 friends that would be very cool valued at $600 each of $500 inspire health services starter pack a $200 voucher from the good guys, $150 Eftpos card and four tickets to attend the pub choir and see Waveney. Tickets are $2 each and credit card payment is available. It really would be great to raise a great amount of money for Orange Sky laundry today and help the fabulous Charity.

OK, some housekeeping now? To please turn your mobile phones to silent a hashtag if you're tweeting today or Facebook or Instagram hashtag is AWL summit 2020. And please get tweeting and see if we can trend here today. Let us know your thoughts on social media. We do have a photographer here if you don't want to be photographed please let that photographer know. Toilets are just outside in the foyer that way. That way, you’ll find them, I'm sure. And if you have any questions even about the toilets we have this summit team, identifiable by a purple sign which says, I'm here to help. Where are our summit team hands up Summit team in the room? There you go, there is a few, you'll find them anywhere. In the event of an emergency venue, venue staff will act as fire wardens, and I'm sure we're going to be in safe hands, OK?

Now to really get things underway, I'd like to welcome Barbara Phillips. Now Barb brings more than 20 years experience in healthcare to her role as Deputy Director-General, Corporate Services Division, Queensland Health. Now starting in Frontline Services and allied health, Barb has led significant New Zealand Government health priorities. Before joining Queensland Health, she's been Deputy Director-General for Corporate Services here in Queensland since 2017. Barb holds an Executive Masters in Public Administration and has commenced a PhD in the topic of leadership. As this has been, event is brought to you by the Queensland Health Women's Network with Barb as the executive sponsor. She is a true champion for inclusion. Please welcome Barbara Phillips.


Opening address

Barbara Phillips, Deputy Director-General, Corporate Service Division, Queensland Health

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I’ll just take a really big breath as I look at amongst you all. Thank you, Jillian, and thank you for the welcome, and good morning to everyone. Welcome to 2020 Aspiring Women's Leadership Summit. My name is Barbara Phillips and I am the Deputy Director-General of Corporate Services at Queensland Health. I'm also very privileged to be the Executive Sponsor for this event in the Queensland Health Woman’s Network. Before I continue, I’d just like to thank away Waveney for that beautiful Welcome to Country and our sponsors and speakers who have been so willing to support this event. I also wanted to thank you, the audience. Oh, I've gone off and back on. There we go. Thank you, I can't see you at the back, but thank you. For prioritizing diversity and inclusion in our workplaces. Today would not be possible without you all, and your involvement in leadership means we may be able to make true change where it is needed. It's fantastic to see so many of you in the room. I know how difficult it is. We have the ballot every year and we had almost 2300 people registered their interest to attend this event this year, which really is staggering in terms of its popularity, and I think it reflects both the impact that this event is head over the years, but also your willingness to drive equality in workplaces.

Over 100 years have passed since the inception of international Woman's Day. Now in 2020, we can be proud of the great progress and achievements we've made towards the empowerment of women and gender balance in the public sector. The journey for gender equality falls on all of our shoulders. This is everyone's mountain to climb. Together we are stronger and can achieve so much more and it is the idea of togetherness that sets the scene for this year's summit theme ‘alone, we can do little together we can do more. The power of partnerships and positive effects of inclusion’. I'd also like to recognize the men who are with us here today in the room. Thank you. I realize that can be daunting, but you are more than welcome in this room. Having you here is crucial for our agenda for change.

The Queensland Health Woman’s Network has been the driving force behind this event since it began. They’re a team of passionate leaders from across Queensland Health in looking and to continue to keep looking at ways to keep the conversation going on equity and influence lasting change. We are continuing to evolve. I'm proud to say this is the first year we have men represented on the Woman's Network. They are in the room today and at the risk of embarrassing them, I can just see across there. Could you please join me in thanking Daniel, Dan and Rolando. Daniel and Dan? Put your hands up, please. Thank you, they're awesome champions and we're so proud and pleased to have them join with us. This is an example of how the power of partnerships can lead to great outcomes, but there is still a lot of opportunity to be had and in through partnerships in the knowledge of what we have achieved so far, we can get there together and we need to start using more now of our established voice to support and raise up other minority groups who need us. There is still more work to do.

This is my third year hosting this event and I'd have to say it's one that's very close to my heart. My very, very first day at Queensland Health was to come to this event. So I came to Brisbane and I think it was three days before this event and bought all my things with me and unpacked. And then this was my first working day at Queensland Health. It was fairly daunting to come into such a large group of people, and I only knew about three people when I arrived, but what it did show me as I was able to wander around all day. No one knew me at all, it was great. They didn't have my photos, they had, nothing was perfect, and I wandered around all day. But what happened during that day really was my first introduction to what I found is just the really strong underpinning theme of Queensland Health. And that was everybody made me welcome everybody asked, oh do you work here? Yes, I work for Queensland Health and that's all they asked. And then they said, is there something we can do for you? Are you OK? Do you want to sit at our table? They made me feel incredibly welcome and I think that is the strength of Queensland Health’s community across all of it. It is always about our people. So I just thought I'd share that 'cause today is the 3rd anniversary for that we have a fantastic lineup for this year, one that will challenge our thinking and inspire change.

Our breakout sessions will continue this by looking at some of the opportunities for change through respectful workplaces and covering topics such as mental wellbeing and resilience and our organizations using partnerships to overcome systemic barriers to gender, equality in sport. Bringing the multicultural Queensland charter to life, promoting mental wellbeing in the LGBTIQ+ communities and discovering how we can partner with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities.

Please take the time today to visit some of our exhibitor stalls in the main foyer. People work really hard to bring those stalls to us every year, and it's a really good opportunity for us to go and talk to them and see what advances and where they're going, so please take their opportunity if you can. Queensland Health has just recently established our own LGBTIQ+ employee network, out of which I am the Executive Sponsor, which brings me great joy. I encourage you to pop over to the stand, ask questions and see how you can be an ally to this group and other minorities in the same way so many of the great men in this room have been an ally to us in our push for female equality. Lastly, I wanted to remind you that this event would not be successful without your input and feedback. This gets bigger and better every year, but we need to ensure that we are delivering what you want to see in here and so please complete the event survey that will be provided to you tomorrow.

I'm going to go off script now. Because the team love it when I do this and I'm not going to take too long I promise. But what happened this morning was I got a taxi to come here and you know what they say, if you want to know what's happening in the world and get the temperature of the world you talked to the taxi drivers. So I had this taxi driver who was gonna talk and he talked from the time I got into the cab to the time I got out. But what he said was really interesting. He said oh where are you going today and I said I'm going to the Aspiring Woman Leaders’ Summit and he said, oh is it new and I said no, it's the third year, he said, he's quite smart taxi driver, he said, are you still aspiring? An is it only for women. An I thought ah OK, so I'm going to be really controversial today and I'm not going to put an apology and for that. But in your feedback, I think we need to change the name of the summit. I think we have grown and evolved and we are bigger and better and more inclusive and I'm sorry but personally I'm not sure that Aspiring Women Leaders’ Summit is really reflective of we what we want to do here.

So I would be very grateful because the team will probably shoot me when I get off the stage, but I would be very grateful if I could get feedback on your forms or the way that you bring the forms back for us. I would really like us to think carefully about what the title, what that says to the folk when we go out and I did say the taxi driver I was going to say because yeah, yeah, just be brave, no one will do anything - it'll be fine. Just stand up there and just hold your ground. And I thought maybe I've seen him the wrong message, but anyway.

I do also want to thank the team behind the scenes today. Because actually, without them, we wouldn't be able to hold this event, and it wouldn't be the seamless, smooth event that is every year. So, Michelle Ulmer, Casey Little, Lauren Brace, Queensland Health Women’s Network and the army of volunteers who come together to make this event possible. Thank you. You continue to do a stellar job. You go over and above and beyond to deliver the seamless event that we share. And if you see them could you please say hello? And if you don't mind? Would you just give them a round a warm round of applause for all the work they put in before and during and after this event?

Thank you. Thank you, have a great day today. I'm sure you'll enjoy it in. Please take the time if you want to share any of your feedback with me directly. I'm more than happy to have that. Thank you.

Keynote Julie McKay

Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer, PwC

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Now I'd like to introduce another remarkable woman. She is a Partner and the Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer at PWC with responsibility for leading the firms internal diversity and inclusion transformation, as well as supporting clients to adopt inclusive policies and practices. Prior to starting with PWC she spent nine years as the Executive Director of UN women Australia working across government, the private sector, and the community to identify the barriers to gender equality, and challenging the laws, policies and attitudes that perpetuate inequality. She's represented UN women Australia and the Australian government at numerous United Nations conferences and UN missions and has a detailed understanding of global policy responses and best practice regarding equality and inclusion. And this only scratches the surface of her incredible achievements. Please join me in welcoming Julie Mackay.


Julie McKay:

Thank you for that very generous introduction that I probably can't live up to. I would also like to acknowledge the traditional owners on the land on which we meet this morning and pay respects to old is past and present, and also acknowledging that it's the week of international Women's Day. Really pay, respect, contribute to The Amazing Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women who have demonstrated such leadership and courage across all aspects of our society.

It's interesting being here to hear Bob's introduction when I was brief to speak, I was told if I could bring together the themes of gender equality, diversity, inclusion, the impacts of wellbeing, and how we can affect change and then to have Barbs actually going to change the theme of the conference. It's a tough thing to be the first speaker to try and pull all of that together, but what I thought I would say she was actually all anyone should say about my bio is, Julie McKay has been working in this sector for most of her career, and she's incredibly grumpy. Because as the years go on, I actually I'm getting grumpier. And I hope that by the end of this very short introductory speech, I can find a way to turn it around. But what I'm finding is that overtime we're seeing this sense of how do we actually affect real change.

When I joined the sector as a young, naive person, thinking surely this isn't that hard and why are all those older women so grumpy about why change hasn't happened? We can do it in 10 years, no worries. I had this view because there were so many incredible women around me. My board was made up that you and women of these extraordinary women who stepped in behind me and said we will back you. You've got this. But if and when you make a mistake, we will back you. I just thought that was normal. Stepping into the corporate sectors been a pretty big reality check around that.

When I thought about my cohort, my peers, who had come up through various schooling and all of our various education and trades as relative equals, it was baffling to me to look up and still think, why do we not have women represented in senior leadership roles? Why do we not have equality when we look at boards, when we look at even community executive roles? Why are we still facing into economic insecurity? Why is a society are we tolerating and accepting the levels of violence that I came to understand? Why did I suddenly step into a workforce where maybe not daily but at least weekly, someone openly made a sexist, racist, or homophobic comment or joke, and it went unchecked.

And the challenge for me as we face into 2020, is I'm not sure how much has actually changed. When I started out at UN women, we talked a lot about the human rights framework for equality. Girls and boys born into the world should be treated equally. The UN sets up a human rights framework that fundamentally gives that right to every individual, so actually anything that then breaches those rights becomes a problem.

Overtime advocates have realized that that message only resonates with certain groups of people, and so a huge amount of effort, energy and research went into trying to quantify the costs of inequality, so we've seen research done around the cost of gender inequality, the cost of social injustice, the costs of domestic violence, the cost of exclusion, an isolation, the cost, and the impact on mental health, and again through that advocacy and that research, what we've seen is another group of people join the movement, join the passion - actually I understand this, the human rights bit I sort of vaguely understood, but I didn't think it was my problem, but suddenly, if you put a dollar figure on it, I can understand how that has an impact and I need to step forward.

But still, if I'm honest, in 2019, we had the workplace gender equality agency present its reports, which is all private sector community organisations over 100 staff, reporting their gender diversity. And we saw in some areas incremental progress at best. In some areas, no change, and in some areas backsliding in the progress that had been made.

And yet the media and the community response to that report wasn't shock, it wasn't horror, it was just acknowledgement, that's where we are.

And so I guess today I'd really love to challenge you to be a bit more shocked, to be a bit more horrified, to be a bit grumpier, at the fact that in 2020 we are still having conversations about what would it take to achieve equality?

And the challenge in Queensland, one of the wonderful things about being in Queensland in this moment in time is that we are all part of a change that has seen women equally represented in Cabinet for the first time. That has seen 52 per cent of government board appointments now being taken up by women. So, it's easy in a room like this with amazing women everywhere you look to think, actually surely we don't have much of a problem, Julie's just grumpy and should move on. But when we then look at the broader stats, when we look at the community impacts, when we look at what's happening in our workplaces, when we start to think about those amazing people who were graduates but aren't here anymore. Who was senior managers but aren't here anymore, you absolutely thought would be Directors-General, but aren't. Too often those people are women, or represent another diversity group.

So for me facing into that challenge of what does it take to achieve real inclusion is incredibly important. I'm really excited that the theme today has built this link with wellbeing and mental health because one of the things for me about this is when we talk about gender equality, all too often that we here is that's a women's issue. Of course, you'd be going on about that Julie, because yeah, that benefits you. The reality here is actually that, of course, the achievement of gender equality benefits everyone. And I’m the kind of person, and this tells you a lot about my personality that spends far too much time reading very odd things.

But I spent a number of months, a couple of years ago reading end of life reflections. because I was sure in those reflections there'd be something that told us. About the pressures we were putting on ourselves in society. And what's very clear, and there are far smarter people have done PHDs on this topic that found find the same thing was very clear when you read end of life reflections is that they are gendered. Men, almost without exception at the end of their life. Regret not spending more time with their families and communities. How family and community as defined for that individual. Women, almost without exception, regret not having let go of some of societies expectations that weighed them down and impacted their choices and ultimately impacted their achievement of potential.

So, if we actually have an evidence base that shows that at the end of our lives, we have very gendered regrets, why wouldn't we start now to try and put in place interruptions that might change those outcomes?

There's been some fantastic studies done of elderly people living in residential care facilities, and what are some of the factors as to whether or not they're more likely to live healthy, happy, and ultimately longer lives versus not? And the key contributing factor is social connectedness.  Inclusion. It makes sense, right? If someone feels connected, feels valued, feels respected, feels safe, then ultimately their wellbeing improves. It's not different to the workplace.

Google has done an extraordinary amount of work and analytics trying to understand what makes affective in high performing teams, and is only Google can they've looked at every aspect of team dynamics of individual behaviour of performance. And the number one factor that they found that determines whether a team is effective and high performing is psychological safety. Is whether individuals in that team feel safe to bring themselves, their whole selves to work, feel safe, to raise ideas to challenge leadership, to raise concerns to flag when they're not doing so well. When that aim feels safe to actually innovate and think. Again, when you hear that it makes complete sense. But when I look at the investment that's being made by governments by the private sector, by the advocacy sector in change around this space, far too little of the investment is going into building psychological safety in teams.

We spend a huge amount of energy and effort fixing women, building women's confidence, challenging women to just step forward. Resume writing presentation skills, you name it we've invested in it. But the reality is actually as simple as how do we teach leaders to lead in a way that makes people feel psychologically safe. And how do we teach everyone to understand what it feels like to feel included and excluded. And chart a course towards inclusion.

The vast majority of diversity and inclusion programs, policies and initiatives fail. And that's a fact. Boston consulting released a piece of work last year, as did the diversity Council of Australia. And it's depending on which one you believe between 75% and 90% of the total investment that goes into diversity and inclusion work has little or no outcomes associated.

The reason for that is almost without exception, organisations fail to take step one which is understanding where they're actually at. Understanding where their people are on a measure of psychological safety. So, we jump into programming. We jump into - oh, I saw this amazing initiative that worked over here so we're going to do it in our organization instead of actually trying to understand where our people actually at. What are the issues facing them each day and then, how do we solve for those issues first?

What works is leadership accountability. Just about every leader of every organization in this country knows they've gotta say they support gender equality, diversity and inclusion. You don't find too many leaders, there are a few that say not don't care, not a priority. But the challenge is how we hold those leaders accountable for their own behaviour, as a starting point the way they interact, who they choose to spend time with, how they make up their own teams. What they reward? Who they value? How they experience feedback? And ultimately, for the change process that they are leading, how many women have they sponsored into senior leadership positions? What has been the change on their watch? And as citizens, we've got the opportunity to hold governments accountable for that commitment. And as consumers shareholders, we've got the opportunity to hold businesses accountable. But taking that individual responsibility and earning that individual power, I think is a challenge for lots for a lot of us.

There is still a need for investment in inclusive leadership capability. What I find when I go into organisations is I still make really big assumptions about the level of confidence people have on these issues. I am still as a consultant in this space as an advocate in this space, having conversations daily, where people say things like, I don't feel comfortable talking to women in case they accused me of sexual harassment. LGBT… I don't know what that means. Oh, we probably can't really focus on disability in this workplace, 'cause we're really high performing workplace. These comments are everyday experiences that I have, that many of you would have. And the challenge is that people haven't actually been called on them.

No one says actually, it's really hurtful when you can't be bothered learning the acronym for a significant population group in our country who deserve your respect. Nobody says, actually, when you say that you're too high performing to focus on disability employment, what you're assuming is a capability gap which is hurtful, offensive and wrong. And when you say that you actually don't know how to interact with women anymore, 'cause you might sexually harass them, what you doing to educate yourself and I own responsibility for that, not being something that you feel comfortable saying or something that you're experiencing.

So, there is this need to really lift database capability level. Our understanding of what does diversity mean? What does inclusion mean? And for me, there's lots of examples where you actually put leaders in situations where they are excluded, and it doesn't have to be for long before they really like they get it. They connect. I think that felt pretty awful. If I felt like that every day, every meeting, every time I stumped up to work, I know I couldn't perform at my best. OK, right I've gotta change things. But actually flipping that experience and really trying to unpack what it means to feel included in the power of inclusion for team performance is hugely valuable.

We've got to get better at calling out what I call the micro aggressions the sexist comments, the racist comments, the homophobic comments, the casual things that we let slide because we don't want to be that person. I spent five years working with the chief of the Australian Defence Force and very quickly I became known as the fun sponge. Because it was my job to call out the behaviour. And initially I was really hurt and I felt like it wasn't part of the club and I struggled. And then I thought nup I'm going to own it. So when I stepped into PWC the very first day I was there and I'm, as I'm demonstrating, not a great consultant - I'm a far better advocate. The very first I was there, I said right, I see my job as being a fun sponge because someone has to be if we're actually going to drive the change forward.

Now, I hope that people who know me know that that's actually not who I am or how you have to behave all the time. But we have to all help each other to call out the stuff we see, because too much of it goes unchecked.

We see major crises happening in organisations, significant sexual harassment issues, sexual assaults. And everyone around the situation goes, yeah, he's a creep, yeah, that was coming for a while so yeah, oh I saw something happening the other day but I wasn't really sure about it. And I think if any of you had stepped in, if any of you had raised a flag, if any of you had tried to have a conversation with any of the parties involved, you could have prevented the ultimate situation from occurring. And so as individuals again, I feel this really strong sense of responsibility to step into that fun sponge roll from time to time.

We spent a lot of time mentoring, lot of mentoring. My absolute strongest advice today, do not find a mentor. Forget mentors, you all have enough people in your life to have coffee with. If you don't, then you need friends and today is a great time to find friends. What women need, what society needs, if we're going to achieve gender equality, is sponsorship of key diverse talent. People who will hold themselves accountable for opening doors, making introductions, backing people in for promotions. Actively working to ensure that someone feels included has opportunities can access the type of work arrangement they need to access. Sponsorship works. Mentoring gets you more addicted to coffee. Think about that today as you're getting to know each other.

And then finally we absolutely still have to remove some of the systemic barriers that still exist for women in the workplace. We know that we've got in the Queensland Government and in many employees around Australian now really significant commitments to flexibility and those commitments are fantastic. But the lived reality for every individual is still mixed and we need to find ways to reduce the bias that exists when someone has a flexible work arrangement. We need to face into the fact that the research shows us that at 3:00 o'clock, when a bloke gets up and leaves the office, everyone assumes he's going to an important meeting. When a woman gets up at 3:00 o'clock and leaves the office everyone assumes they're going to pick up their children.

There's a study that actually shows that even when a team consciously knows that the woman does not have children, if it's three o'clock, they get up to leave the office, they are picking up children. Any children, someone else’s children? Because that's what women do in the afternoon. Until we can change that. We've got a problem.

We need to challenge the fact that child care still isn't working and we can blame different parts of government for that but ultimately, as a society we've got to think of a different model. We've got to think about community-based care. We gotta face into working together to say, OK, I've got young kids, you’ve got young kids, can we workout some partnership out in the same way would work out a job share arrangement. Gotta get smarter about child care.

And as I know would be deeply personal for every person in this room, we have to face into preventing violence against women, but not just preventing it, ensuring that we invest in adequate services for those women who are experiencing violence today before prevention is too late. And an adequate justice system that protects them through that process, and again thinking about that every day as a workplace issue, because these women are in our workplaces, they are our peers, they are our friends. Is a critical priority if we're truly going to realize the benefits of diversity, inclusion, and ultimately wellbeing.

The tides are changing. Employee expectations of employers are changing. We're seeing more and more evidence of people leaving their employer because they don't believe the environment is inclusive and therefore, they don't believe they can thrive. Because they believe that despite the promises of flexibility, diversity and inclusion, the reality isn't meeting expectations, so employers are going to have to face into a changing reality and expectation. But we're also seeing a move to strengthen the legislative framework, to actually hold businesses accountable and employers accountable for mental wellbeing, in the same way that we hold them accountable for workplace health and safety from a physical safety perspective.

If you thought about if our leaders were held accountable every day for the steps they took to prevent someone being excluded and therefore having the impact on their wellbeing of that exclusion, if every leader was held accountable for the positive steps they took to prevent exclusion, I suspect our workplaces would be very different.

So today you've got this incredible opportunity. This incredible platform to come together. I think step one should be every leader of the public service should start day one here, great suggestion Barb, imagine if their introduction to public service life was 1000 women telling them about their experiences and their expectations, pretty exciting. But you've got an opportunity to come together to think about what does it mean for you to work in a team that feels inclusive, where you can realize your full potential, and we ultimately the wellbeing outcomes for you personally for your team and for our society will be stronger.

Enjoy the day. Don't find a mentor. And I look forward to hearing more throughout the day. Thank you.

Remarks by Hon Di Farmer

Minister Child Safety, Youth and Women, Minister for Domestic and Family Violence

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So, to begin this next section of the program, I'd like to welcome the Honourable Di Farmer MP. The Minister for Child Safety, Youth and Women, and Minister for the Prevention of Domestic and Family Violence. Now, prior to becoming Minister, she was Deputy Speaker of the Queensland Parliament and Di is also the member for Bulimba. After starting her working life is a speech pathologist. Oh, imagine that's the word that you stuff up on. I did not do that deliberately, it’s lunch. No, there was no wine at lunch. Can I just say? Then Di pursued a career in both the public and private sectors where she held a range of senior management positions. This included establishing her own consultancy firm specializing in strategic communications. The issues that Di addresses in her portfolio with, motivators for her entering politics in the first place. She's absolutely delighted that as a Minister she's now in a position to influence change around these issues. Please put your hands together for the Honourable Di Farmer.


Di Farmer:

Thank you so much Jillian. And it's wonderful I love this conference so it's an it's wonderful to stand up here and see so many of you here today. I want to begin by acknowledging the traditional owners of the land on which we gather and pay my respects to elders past, present, and emerging. I grew up on Biyali country.

I love this conference so much because it's called Aspiring Women Leaders and what a really at title that all of you should be gathered here today and you're actually here because someone or some people has identified you as a potential leader. They have reached out and they have, they have said to you. We want to support you to reach for the stars. And that's what I want to talk to you about today, because that's an enormous responsibility. And when I was asked to speak at this conference. I had a I had a pretty strong idea of what I wanted to talk to you about.

I actually can't believe how lucky I am that I have the job that I have and that I get to talk to women about being the best that they can possibly be, it is, it is wonderful. And I, you know we’re women in Queensland I always say we have a women strategy and I'd love you to Google that we went out a couple of years back and said to women across Queensland. What do you think of the really important things we need to be working on to make sure that every woman in Queensland has the same hope and opportunity as the next one and we came up with four pillars, participation and leadership, economic security, health and wellbeing and safety? So, we've gone out there very strongly and I really would love you to Google that to look at that in Queensland we have a very strong mantra that you can't be what you can't see. We have a female Premier in a female Deputy Premier. 50% of our Cabinet are women. 50% of our caucus are women. We have the first Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander woman in Cabinet. When we were re-elected in 2015 there were 31% women on Queensland Government boards, and we set a target. That they should be 50% on Queensland Government boards and at the end of last year we announced that we had reached 50% a year ahead of time. And thank you. That was a really proud day. In fact, I just reported a cabinet on Monday that we have 52% now. So, so you know, we say we're not just talking about women being at the front, where actually being it, we are actually walking the talk.

Um, however. My thoughts about giving an empowering speech today, changed on the 19th of February. When Hannah Clark and her three beautiful babies were murdered in the most horrific incident of domestic violence, then most of us have ever seen. And so today I want to talk to you about empowerment. But I want to talk about it in a different way. And because domestic violence is the most significant issue facing women in Australia today? And, we have to make that tragedy matter. We have to make what happened to Hannah and her babies actually matter. And we've all been walking around absolutely heartbroken.

I don't go anywhere without people wanting to talk to me about what happened, and people are saying, what can we do? And today I want to say to you, you can do something. And you need to do something.

Often when I'm asked to speak at these things and it happened today, people want me to talk about my personal experiences in my personal journey to becoming a Minister. I'm not going to tell you that today, but I do want to share something personal with you, which is about this that I don't know, I’ve got a very long title and I don't know if you called it all but it's child safety, it's youth justice. Its women its prevention of domestic and family violence and very early on, I had to workout how I put a fence around my heart and soul to make sure that the stories that I hear and see, which are some of the most depraved that you could ever imagine.

In fact, you actually couldn't imagine some of the things that we see I had to work out how to put a fence around that so it didn't get into my soul. And I've actually worked out how to do that, I know what my thresholds are. But I did just go under a bit. What, what happened to Hannah and her babies, and I think we all did and when that happens to us. We have to pick ourselves up remembering we are not that family, we are not that family who has suffered, but whenever these things happen we have to actually pick ourselves up and say well what are we actually going to do about that? And that's what I want to talk to you about today.

So we know in Queensland we have always put our shoulders to the grindstone about domestic and family violence. Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk a was the first Premier to call domestic violence as a national crisis. She called for it to be on the coag agenda. We had the first summit here in Queensland. She was the first Premier to instil paid domestic and family violence, leaving Queensland. She called on all the other state and territory leaders to do the same. We accepted all 140 recommendations of Dame Quentin Bryce if not now not ever report into how to tackle domestic violence in Queensland and we committed just under $330,000,000 to it. And on the day that we announced we'd achieve 50% women on Queensland Government boards. We also announced that we had completed all of those 140 recommendations around domestic violence two years ahead of time. And they were about a whole lot of things. It was setting up specialists DV chords. It was building the first women shelters in 20 years. It was introducing new offenses. It was increasing penalties. It was introducing respectful relationships curriculum in schools. It was funding services. Many of you will actually be working around these spaces and will know it intimately. And it was a huge change. But as soon as we started implementing it, the number of women putting their hands up and saying this is happening to me, went through the roof because it was the first time that anyone realized that what was happening to them actually wasn't.

OK, and that in fact there were services around. And we, as we finished that set of recommendations. We, we had a new plan in place and because we know that there is always so much more to do and you have never done enough in this space. But I think Hannah’s, Hannah’s death and the death of her babies has made us all go back to that and say why? What are we going to do and, and you know, I think there's been a bit of a sense of hopelessness about, well, what do we have to do?

And you might have seen that the Premier last week announced that there would be a so much so that we could actually look at going to be really focused and really, what are we doing the things we have to do, and I've been very careful to say, because there are lots of ideas floating around, lots of ideas and people feel really strongly, and I've been really careful to say we need to make sure anything we do is evidence based. And we need to make sure that whatever we do is not going to cause harm to the people who are already victims.

Since the 19th of February we have seen another spike in women putting their hands up. Women who are hearing the public conversation about what Rohan Baxter did to his family and saying. Wow, is that domestic violence that's been happening to me? And bringing the services and perpetrators. Ringing and saying. That's how I am. I'm really worried that I'm actually going to do something and putting their hands up for help. And that's actually really important that that's happening.

But we need to work out what we can do at cells because government actually can't do this alone and even completing those 140 recommendations that was so many people, so many agencies, so many NGOs, so many individuals. But we need to do more in the statistics side of things. Are this one in six women and one in 16 men over the age of 15 have suffered abuse at the hands of an intimate partner. One in two women a week are killed in a domestic homicide. Police attended DV incident in Australia somewhere every two minutes and in fact many police that is all they do on their shift. If you are an Aboriginal Torres Strait Islander woman, you are 34 times more likely to be hospitalized as a result of domestic and family violence. If you are a woman with a disability, you are twice as likely to suffer domestic violence and usually by your carer on whom you are totally dependent for your daily life. So with those statistics we know that we all know somebody who's been a victim.

In fact, with those statistics, there are many people in this audience today who are victims of domestic and family violence. And you know what? They will be the person that you least expect. And those people, those neighbours and people in Camp Hill probably never thought that domestic violence ever happened in their neighbourhood. They would have thought it was somewhere else, someplace else to someone else.

And I know I represent a very affluent electric lot of tertiary, educated, professional people, and I often get people saying to me or you wouldn't get much of that where you come from. But nothing could be further from the truth because domestic violence, it doesn't care. It doesn't care about age. It doesn't care about race, it doesn't care about education or job, doesn't care about health. It just is there.

But it means we do all know somebody and we have a responsibility to actually do at least one thing about that. We have a responsibility to say, did you know there's this number you can ring? Or did you know there's a website? Or did you know that what's happening to you is actually not OK? Or if you want a cup of coffee, I am here all the time. And if you don't reach out, you know it actually could be a matter of life and death and I know Vanessa Fowler who is Alison Baden, Clay's sister. Who has set up a foundation with her family to actually work with people on? How do you? How do you not be a bystander? She talks about how many times they said to Alison. Are you OK? And Alison, yeah, yeah, I'm OK. And never a day goes past that they don't wish that they had actually said something more.

But it's not only those things 'cause many of us can go oh well, that's you know that's personal. I don't want to get involved in that. Or why doesn't she just leave him? And I can tell you, it is not that easy. There are so many reasons that our victim cannot leave a violent partner and fear is one of them. Fear is a terrible issue, so I want to put it that challenge to you. But I also want to say to you that one of the fundamental, fundamental bases of domestic violence is lack of respect for women. And I want to read you out some of the attitudes of Australians are to women and sexual violence and domestic violence.

One in three Australians think it's natural for a man to want to appear in control of his partner in front of his male friends. One in five Australians believe domestic violence is a normal reaction to stress and that sometimes a man makes a woman so angry he hits her without meaning to. One in eight, believe that if a woman is raped while she's drunk are affected by drugs, she's at least partly responsible. One in three believed that if a woman sends a nude image to her partner, she is partly responsible if he shares it without her permission. One in three believe if a woman doesn't leave an abusive partner, she's responsible for the violence continuing. So that means there are many people around you, who actually believe those things? And unless we can start addressing those attitudes then, we are only going to go so far in addressing domestic violence.

And so I'm spending a lot of time talking since the 19th of February to people to say the standard that you walk past is the standard that you accept and we must start calling out those sort of attitudes we must not, in our workplaces or our homes or our sporting clubs or wherever we are, we must not allow those sorts of comments in those sort of attitudes to perpetuate without challenging them. We must actually take our individual responsibility for what we as a community.

What is it? What sort of community we actually want to be? And if you are the parent of a teenage boy then your responsibility to make sure that young man is a courageous young man is enormous because we can't keep on doing things at the pointy end of DV and trying to save women and trying to find safe places for them. Unless we start at the beginning, then we will never ever get to the end of this. And so I want to say to you, you are doing so well to be here today to be chosen to be acknowledged as a leader, there are people looking to you now. You might think that you're looking at role models ahead of you, but there are people looking to you now to say. You are my role model. And now more than ever is the time where we have to be those role models we have to actually accept our responsibility. We have to actually empower women and empowering women to have the same hope and opportunity for everyone to have the same hope and opportunity. Fundamental to that is surely safety and wellbeing.

So, I put that challenge out to you. You are wonderful, Impressive people, please take up that responsibility because we've gotta make what happened to Hannah and her babies, we gotta make that matter. Thank you.

Keynote Ian Healy

Former Australian Cricketer

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And now like to introduce our next speaker. You might recognize this guy who was a long-time member of the Australian cricket team, missing just one test between 1998 and 1999. Ian’s total of 395 dismissals, 360 six catches and 29 stumpings is a Test cricket record. He's one of 11 Australians to play more than 100 tests. His total of 199 matches is the highest by any wicket keeper in world cricket. Since his retirement, he's occupied himself with business interests, celebrity appearances, and being on TV. Ian has also been an advocate for women in international cricket, particularly supporting the career of his niece Alyssa Healy. And of course, Alyssa plays international cricket for Australia. Please put your hands together for Ian Healy.



Thanks very much Jills and thanks everyone. It's quite daunting to be here. Actually, my eyes have been opened in the last hour and a half immediately. The amount of work that is needed and is being done in inclusiveness really surprised and impressed me to try to reflect the community percentages in each and every workplace is a wonderful aspiration that's for sure.

I've also seen the second question that I have reserved for me and realized I'm part of the problem. White heterosexual men are at the top of the privilege chain. What do you think? So you know that that is the problem. And it's a huge challenge, but I think one that society and governments have moved very well on, even though there's so much more to do as the converted in the room probably know.

What descriptors come to your minds. Many of you won't know cricket what descriptors come to your mind when I say the words baggy green? Can you yell if you out? Cap was it? $1,000,000. Pride. Honour. How good that makes me so proud. You know? Because it's a bloody felt cap. What image is that it does? It does create around Australians is incredibly impressive and it takes unbelievable partnerships and engagement in hundreds of areas of society over 150 years. And we're currently in a massive rebuild of it.

You know, Tim Paine, our captain of Australia, and Justin Langer, the coach of Australia, have spent two years now resurrecting their team after an absolute disaster when the team was off the rails lacking leadership. The things they have to resurrect is they have to get their teams as mates again, 'cause plenty of them fell out. They have to get performances going again. They have to get enjoyment going again because if we are under pressure and we're playing such high-level high-performance type sport or work, why are we doing it if it's not fun? Then I have to get broadcasters happy. So, broadcasters we now make sport tick and they have plenty of demands. Then they have the fans and their families to get going. So, I guess here much balanced Tim Paine and Justin Langer have had in the last two years when we think about work life balance and anything that's big. And it's like this inclusiveness, and it's like high performance of anything. You won't find much balance. It's got to be full on and there's a high burnout rate. So, work life balance doesn't work for everyone.

I thought today I'd go along the lines of leadership. So, leadership, and how sport goes about it and will hopefully get onto the advantages that sport certainly has over the teams in the Department that you guys are maybe one day going to head and definitely teams of people that you will head. And what you're going to get for me today is connectivity is crucial. Partnerships. And that my main that people are going to give up got to give up some ownership. Got to give up some territorialism for the good of the team because the team will fly. Rather than individuals with the leaders plan this Big Green Button.

2 weeks ago, I saw a movie I can remember what movie it was, but this quote came up underneath the opening sort of scene. You know, if you want to go fast, go alone, if you want to go far, you need a team and I thought, jeez, that's perfect for what I might be talking about in a couple of weeks’ time so I quickly put it in my phone. And then I looked up this, John Wooden. And I should know him he is one of the most credentialed and highly rated coaches in sport. Not even not even in just his sport of basketball college basketball, but in sport in general and generally through the colleges of American basketball. And I'll show you some of his work a little later on about leadership.

Connectivity not only improves your wellbeing, but it will bring you success. And then if it doesn't bring you success. You feel better you've had fun anyway.

Mark Taylor, Famous Australian cricketing captain had a six-month batting hiatus. In 1999, when we first played together, his son would say dad, can you get me 100 today? Yes, son no worries. We might be in England. He made under 30 nine runs for the tour by the end of this six months period, Will who was a little older now said dad, could you get me double figures today? Jesus and he was stressing and he's sort of everything he was eating him up twice in his career. He stopped and he said what the hell? What the heck? I'm just going to get out there and hit the ball. What happened? He made 100. In twice in that six-month period, he reckons was six months it's really 18 months it went for but. And then what do you do after the 100 he went back stressing again, but that day that he made those two days that he made hundreds he said, I'm not gonna stress today I'm going to concentrate on what to do and I'm going to see if it if it happens. If it doesn't happen again like the last three months, it's OK. I have had fun and I've not eating myself up.

That's the first thing about connectivity and leadership the relationships we have I think home where those, relationships are deep and they can be really great relationships and partnerships, and they can really hurt as well. When your child is injured, when your child's not getting a go, they're not seeing hit the ability in him or her that you know they have, that hurts. Then you could move in the social relationships and connectivity where it's more fun. It's more relaxed and it's more trusting. It still trusting, not more trusting than home relationships but then work. You move into work where it becomes skill. You know your skill partnerships, your integrity and dependability. Those sorts of character traits that you become very that become very important to all your network of partnerships. I think this is a topic that I commend everyone on sort of addressing what a great day in summit to be hosting because it's an area we're getting a lot worse at making sure that wellbeing is looked after in cricket just this year in the last six months we've had five batsman that's easiest job in cricket, five batsman leave the game with mental health.

So we're getting worse at this. How much time do we spend chatting now to people in your teams to find out more about them? I say I'd say a lot less. You know how much time do we discover things about their likes and their dislikes and what they do on weekends and things like that. Good old-fashioned qualities, devising plans sitting together, devising plans, revisiting plans, and then when plans are finished, how much time compared to 20 years ago, 30 years ago are we spending acknowledging success or performance and rewarding it? And I'd say less. I think even in sport, it's a lot less.

So where is our satisfaction going? It just goes from project to project the project and doesn't stop and sort of pat on the back and get together and have some fun, some enjoyment and some satisfaction in our roles. Sport in my time and I played from 1988 to 1999, we said about producing the Aussie way. You know, this was probably ahead of its time, but and one of the things that very well, what this is, is how we want to train and prepare. How we want to play the Aussie way and we sat in in groups and the coach said, well, how do we want to bat? Well, we don't know you just bat. So, what's a good, good channel is the way he wanted us to go as well. What's a good day with the bat and I said well everyone sort of said well 300 runs in a day, righto? I put it down, so here it probably says operate in partnerships and 300 runs in a day is a good day. Bowling, the bowling group said we want to get the opposition out in one day, see in cricket it goes from 5 days of test match and opposition can bat for 2 1/2 of those and make it really difficult for you. So that was the goal within six months the batting team were making 350 in a day and we still an we started to achieve the bowling goal because we had some sort of standards that were set by us and for us.

The one that really interests me is the one that I think business doesn't do as well as sport is that then it's the first one themes and values for our team. So how to train and prepare? How to play and the themes we want for our team enjoy team success and other individuals’ success. And that goes with that. We always cricket is an outstanding game where you can be the hero and you can be a superstar on your own, but you're also in a team which can cover for you on your bad days and that that team ethos will stand you in great stead and have a lot of success in a lot of fun over any careers that you do get.

Interesting that dimension one of things in the back which were the leftover themes for our team was respect for wives and families. Which is an incredible sacrifice, even though once again I didn't, we didn't know it was a sacrifice, you know, to have an independent partner at home that was get it still getting things done even though you were sort of away. And even when you're at home, you sometimes mentally away coping with the stress and the excitement of what you're doing.

So much so, my wife Helen went to a um, sorcerer, what are they called? You know, I don't, she watches a lot of Harry Potter. Yeah, I don't know whether was a palm reader, or those cards. I can't even remember my sister went to this lady and her mother had passed away and she gave her some incredible advice, ah, observations and incredibly accurate for my sister, so my wife not to be outdone, she goes in and she said there was talk about she'd been married twice. And then so the sorcerer whatever she is OK, came back to that. Came back to that a couple of times and it's almost at the Helen said no no. What are you talking about married twice? And she said this is what it looks like. You had a man that was your first husband was self-centered, very driven, very preoccupied, occupied. But this second the second husband now adores you. He's so attentive to you, he loves everything about family life. So you've done really well. And Helen goes well I've been married once, but I had a cricketer as a husband.

And that's the sort of pressures that families can be under and the support that's needed to hold good performance together. I talked about the advantages sport has, you know, in your department's hands up anyone and probably stand up if you've got anyone in your team in your area that goes to work every day. Yes, I've made it to this job. So sport in the avenues that I've been in so to the Australian cricket team we've got talent, we've got the best talent in the whole country living their dream.

So the issues for us aren't as big and as challenging as it is for you guys. And if someone is not going very well they just get moved on. That creates mental health problems but that's what it is at a high performance sport. It's not that nice at times. And of course if you have a great project and you put something inside and you've really, really created some unbelievable policy, what do you get? Compared to a sportsman it has a good year, they get more money, they get a better contract. They get the adulation of the fans. They get the media talking them up. They get more sponsorships, and they get the love of everyone. And so that's another great advantage that business just can't keep doing. But leadership has to continue to get close to that I reckon.

John Wooden has created that. So, when I looked up this bloke and you guys can do this is. His work on leadership was incredible. They're all the qualities I think I've sort of basically put the bottom two layers into human traits that you can have, and you can identify in yourself. But if you become leaders, you need to start to identify that in others you know to break a person down into those topics is really easy now that you've got those topics in front of you, it's unbelievable work.

There's a manual in this one pyramid of leadership, then I think that the third layer up is starting to get into character. And I love the word character. You not so much better than reputation. So so character traits that you're seeing in a person. In the teams there keeping in their work all those sorts of things. And then the top gets up performance, absolute performance. So the solid base that everyone knows that you have to have in everything we do from building a house to having a golf swing way that the base has to be solid and their hands or speed up. There's the base, the human traits that you're looking for. You're looking to develop and identify an promote and work on so that that performance pyramid can be completed.

He's tough, though, have a look at what he says about the performance one, and he says competitive greatness perform at your best when your best is required, your best is required every day, so it's hard. That's really hard, but I think it's an unbelievable piece of work in just Google, John Wooden or these slides will be available by and then some other of his creeds that we're told to him through his family partnerships and connections and have a look at how often he talks about people he sees himself as a teacher obviously, he says teach people if you can in the bottom of the pyramid.

So, it's all about people all about making everything perfect every day and I think as close as we can get to that the better. That's just seven creeds and then some other comments that you can read from John Wooden. Good leadership and we're about to have some questions.

As I said, there's an iPad up here. If you need to submit any questions on things that you might be able to question out of me better, ie my niece, I don't think I've got any different relationship with my niece that has been nurtured in any other way but blood relationships and it's turned out she's become a superstar wicket keeper which is quite, quite interesting I think.

One thing societies got to do and sport definitely. So that's all I'm qualified to talk on. One thing sports Got to do is provide coping strategies and good leadership does that. You know we can have, our last mental health issue in cricket, the player after he had a break from the game decided he was just bored. You know, so how we ensuring that boredom doesn't become a problem? And so good leadership. Make sure you get in and create coping strategies to keep these teams together the way sports does it and I think everything everyone can do is plan together. Make sure your own those plans like those plans, the plans the Australian Cricket Team had, they would become affective if the team owns them. Those plans might have been wrong. Right or wrong if you own them, you'll get them down and you'll go well and you'll change them and you'll go back and revisit and get them better and better, better perform together and celebrate and commiserate together. And then you go again. It never stops. It's fun when you're doing successfully, and you've got good friends doing stuff with you.

I played with Shane Warne for 11 years you know, and it's great to tell kids you can get 708 Test Wickets and you don't even need a brain. But he is. He was unbelievably engaged in every part of our team, his family, the set up and support outside his cricket. The opponents and their countries that we’re in. The best story, one of the stories, he was criticizing a fellow who played for South Africa called Brian McMillan. And he was calling him Gerrard and McMillan didn't like it. And he's standing in front of me as wicketkeeper, and I don't say anything to the fella he is very big and he's a fast bowler who can hurt me so. Warney is under something here. He ended up getting him out, sending him off to the dressing room. See ya later Gerard. Your best movie was green card. Look forward to your next. Next week we're going back to South Africa. And we get in the huddle and we say Warney what do you mean? Hollywood and green card? Na na I found out he hates the size of his head its way out of proportion to his body and they call him Gerard Depardieu. The French actor. So good on you mate. Well done you got him out and then that night in the dressing room night four in the Adelaide test bearing in mind Friday we're going back to South Africa incomes Jonty Rhodes, a good made of most of us but definitely Warney and someone goes Jonty come in come in. Johnny just stood very formally, which is unlike him and he said message to Shane Warne from Brian McMillan that plenty of people go missing in South Africa every day. One more is not going to make any difference, so.

That's the stress of cricket, we play this. We play the same opponent for 25 days. if you get in if you get behind early, look out and Warne was the master at getting in getting on top of early and giving us a lot of success. To me connectivity is crucial. It's getting worse in society, it's getting worse in sport I'd like to commend everyone for the topic. The topics that you're covering and working on and creating aspiration's around for the future because that will provide success with clear direction, and as much fun as you possibly can get. So congratulations, it's not easy, but it's a great topic. Thank you.


Yeah, this yeah this works so a couple of questions, so I just thought I'd jump in to help you out Heals. I did work with Heals at Channel 9 so I'll get give you all the good questions. Ok so the top question is where can we see this sorcerer?


Leave it, leave it with me.


All the best sorcerers within Brisbane. No, but it was so accurate term anyway. And then another question, if you wouldn't mind if your view on this from Amy and supported by a lot of people. If you're in an organization that lacks the leadership instead of leaving, how can one truly make a difference to improve the leadership towards an upward direction or improving leadership?


And so that's the perfect question. It's a topic that I struggled to be able to explain just. Up front, but I sort of hope that that's the pressure point, isn't it? All you can do is lead by example in and behave extremely well. Show incredible work ethic, diligence, trustworthiness, those bottom character traits that John Wooden's got up there. You can have a look through those shows, some initiative. Because that's lacking in society to take little things on upon yourself and still it might not be good enough. You still not might get noticed or whatever, somehow with all you guys in here that the leaders will become the right people. Way too often there's leaders like I think of those last slides of John Wooden. He mentioned he has fears for those sorts of teams and the leaders just not sharing. Not giving anything out and taking it as his or her legacy that's got to be broken down and you've all got to get it done. You'll get it done much better in a team, but that's an extremely I’d say depressing, frustrating position to be in and I wouldn't stay there very long. I'd have to have to be Googling at night for jobs. Sometimes you do need to get out.


Another question on women's sports are women in sports recently seeing some encouraging growth? A rapid rise in women taking up cricket and it's because the idea you can't be what you can't see. And we're watching Alyssa Healy and landing and all of those incredible women on TV but interested in your thoughts on how we can encourage more girls into sport and what will it take to get more broadcasting attention.


The World Cup is on the telly at the moment, isn't it? The broadcasting it definitely, it's on 9 and Fox, so as the men is it's getting its coverages worked. It will happen sports, not something that's very easy to pick up and say for a 12-year-old girl. She doesn't just start playing sport because it's quite daunting, so we might even have to wait a little bit longer than that. There's plenty that are, as you say, there's plenty that are, but we'll see the wave of talent and performance and numbers coming through in 20 years’ time, you know, not so much 10 years’ time it'll be steady, but then it'll just be unbelievable because they've now got its now trending I reckon I've even noticed that around the streets when we go running when you get out and run. Now I just walk. So, I can see stuff. I reckon I see many many more aspirational girls and women running, whether their footballers now, you know, it's changed. It's changed very quickly, but there's, there’s still a lot to do I don't think their schedules aren’t right. They get tired very quickly in like in this World Cup they’re in. And they better be good tomorrow night those Aussie girls because you got 90,000 people that want to go to the Melbourne Cricket Ground on Sunday on international Women's Day and if Australia aren’t playing it might not get there, but I just think we've got a whole lot of level just like this inclusiveness and the layers that have to be worked on is incredible. Just same as the women that can't be treated the same that they've had that I was going to say they had Seven warm up games for a 6 Game World Cup. Well, what are they doing?


Get fresh and will stay good and just finally this question from Amanda. How can sportsman contribute both within sport and broader society to building more respectful attitudes towards women and the case that I think pops to my mind is Candace Warner and the harassment that she received in South Africa? So, having sports people stand up and say that's not cool, you can't do that.


Stupid administrators the day after with masks on as well here. How bad is that? So, I guess also, that story was with his wife and now it's the crowds were teasing her very publicly about her previous encounter with Sonny Bill Williams wasn't it? A long time ago, so they were yeah, just dirty, horrible. And it was the crowds doing it. Yeah, definitely. and I think, unconscious racism problem. Although certain sexism or all those sorts of things that now becoming conscious, we have to keep getting them in people's conscience. Conscious because, you know, we have been, you know, we have had different beliefs as Australians all the way through. You know her parents weren’t as well behaved in these fields as we are now, and it's becoming much more conscious. All sport can do is be better than society and continue to strive to be better than the societal average. Will still have bad apples in most things and we're pleased in cricket that when we do surveys that the government departments that in the you know drugs and alcohol and racial and all those sorts of areas they do look at our answers and they say they're very honest. Crickets going on honest attitude to answering surveys well and we’re about one tenth of society for the problem. So we've just got to continue to be 110th and try to get rid of that one tenth. That's probably all we can do, but they get lectured heavily every year, and so it's in their conscience and conscious so when it does come out it they get punished.


And be great to see them continue to stand up and say, not cool, don't do it. But thank you so much Heals. Thank you so much for that keynote can you please put your hands together. Good luck leaders!

Remarks by Robyn Littlewood

Chief Executive, Health and Wellbeing Queensland

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Well, welcome back everybody. If I could have your attention, I hope you enjoyed your afternoon tea as you can see, we have a really interesting final session coming up. Now though I'd like to introduce our next speaker and she is a true powerhouse. She's the Chief Executive at Health and Wellbeing Queensland and a leading advocate for health promotion. She believes every Queenslander has the right to better health and she's absolutely relentless in achieving this. An experienced leader, researcher, clinician, academic and educator. She's worked extensively across all levels of Pediatric obesity prevention, nutrition, dietetics from one and one consultation with children and families in her clinic deleting multiple multidisciplinary teams on statewide initiatives almost got there. Please put your hands together for adjunct professor Robyn Littlewood.



Almost thank you. I would like to say I've been in this job for 14 weeks, 3 days and four hours so please don't expect too much. Thank you Jillian and thank you everybody and good afternoon.

Um, you're probably feeling now a little bit tired, a little bit sleepy back from afternoon tea. And so I think that might be the reason why they've asked me to come up and speak to you. If anyone knows me, so I'm from Health and Wellbeing Queensland and I'm so proud of that, who has heard of us? I would say about 50% of you, probably more. I love that an I'm going to talk a little bit more about that also.

So, people ask me all the time. What is health and wellbeing? What actually is it? Is it seeing a GP? Is it being a vegan? Is it running every day? Why is it running every day? Is it being zen, is it doing the yoga? Look, according to the WHA they say that it is a complete state of physical, mental and social wellbeing which sounds good to me. Other, other definitions talk about being comfortable and being happy, so look sure I completely agree with that.

But please hands up who feels in this state of complete happiness, comfort, social, physical, emotional completeness on a daily basis. So, who's who's feeling who's feeling that? Right, so nobody, right. That's because it's actually really, really hard.

So, in my life and I'm going to talk a little bit about me. I've been given 5 minutes. So, I'm going to go quick, alright? I won't go over. So, there's been., there's been times when my physical health wasn't as great as it should have been, so I've been sick. I probably weighed more than I weighed less. I did actually get over it. I remember a time when my social supports just weren't connecting, so this was back at uni it was a really, really difficult time for me and I worked through it. And then I got over it. But my goodness, I remember a time in my career, when things just stood still, my mental health was under attack. I lost my confidence and then every other part of my life became really, really difficult. Took a long time to recover so just any chance at anyone in this audience has been through something similar.

Seeing lots and lots of hands and lots and lots of nods. So as a woman who is fit, who does run? Physically, very, very strong and takes physical health very, very seriously. Who is relentless about people eating better and moving more? I want to send out a critical and very simple message to each and every one of you. No matter who you are, no matter how old you are, no matter where you are or where you live, you need to protect your mental health because my God you are going to need it.

There is so much research that backs this up. I want to quote some difficult facts from a national survey and this was done just on women. 42% of women reported feeling anxious or on edge nearly every day of their career, sometimes weekly. But most of all every day. 40% of young women, so not me, reported feeling lonely at least at least every single week, so that's nearly one in two. That's almost half feeling lonely every single week and one in six of us reported feeling actually depressed.

So this is not the data from the 1940s and this is not the data from an underdeveloped country. This is from Australia in 2019. Sorry, I end also, this affects each each one of us differently. If you're a young woman often, often your mental health is affected by your body image. If you're pregnant or post Natal often, this is about anxiety and depression, which, which you feel that you cannot share or cannot talk about. Or for many older women they talk about social isolation being a real issue for them.

I would go as far as to say your mental health has got to be protected, but it's also got to be defended. These takes time, it takes effort, and nobody is going to do this for you. But you have to work at this. How and I'm not going to say to get a mentor. I'm not saying to get a mentor, gonna give you 4 four tips that works for me and it's really really simple.

Number one, actively seek out those amazing partnerships, surround yourself with those people that make you feel good inspired, empowered, and even relentless when you're around them. If people don't make you feel like that, then don't be around them. When I became the Chief Executive, I think the single thing that re that reassured me the most that I could not only do the job, but do it well, was those people that were wrapped around me and they have been since the start. They have checked in let's go for coffee. Let's do this. Are you OK? And I'm so grateful for that.

Number two pay it forward. Make time to do the same for others that they have done for you. That is such a two way street and you will get so much out of that. Number three take a positive approach. It is fixable. It is reversible. Have a narrative around this. It is fixable. It is reversible. It is not insurmountable. And number four be really brave. I'm that person that comes to work every day more excited about the day then I was even the day before. Even when you think it's not even not even possible. And I love what I do because it's what Health and Wellbeing Queensland is all about.

For those who don't know, I'm so proud to announce that Queensland has its own independent health promotion agency, which began back on the 1st of July, 2019. The foundations of this are rock solid. They are about trust. The words are trust partnership, empowering, supporting and leveraging every single thing that we do together to elevate and maximize the amazing work within our champions and communities that exist already. There is no negative. There is no shame there is no blame, nor will there be. This is about being absolutely prepared, but great for the future, and I know that we all hear about, you know, the bad, the badness and the things that are going on. I am counting on Queensland being amazing.

Every person in Queensland has the right to good health. Chronic disease is preventable, and it is fixable. It is not doom and gloom. And it's nobody's fault. And Queensland has got this so right just like our mental health, the only way that we're ever going to succeed has to be together.

So, if this brand new Chief Executive can be brave enough to get up and say Queensland is going to lead the obesity agenda globally, then you are going to be brave enough to start empowering others and to be empowered and know that you are absolutely good enough for that. So here is, here is too committing to ourselves and our mental health. This is for all women, starting with every single one of you in this room. Here's to Health and Wellbeing Queensland. All goes well and this is for all Queenslanders no matter who you are or where you are. I want you to have a better life starting today.

So, I want everybody please stand up now. Anybody in this room that is planning on leaving here today feeling better? Putting themselves first an owning their health and wellbeing? And they're going to make a real commitment to it. Please stand up. I want to hear. From each and every one of you letting me know your journey.

I love you work, thank you.

Keynote Good Chef Bad Chef

Chef Adrian Richardson and nutritionist Rosie Mansfield

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And now like to introduce our next and final keynote. Speakers Good Chef Bad Chef. Now in it's 12th season on the telly, it's a cooking show where it's a battle of good versus bad workout. Who's who? Chef Adrian Richardson and nutritionist Rosie Mansfield. They compete in food challenges to see who can make the best dinner in 10 minutes. So Rosie, AKA the food hacker professional nutritionist hell bent on making cooking less complicated, taking on Adrian Richardson, the owner of a couple of restaurants in a well known restaurants in Melbourne, La Luna Bistro and Bar. So can you please put your hands together for Good Chef Bad Chef.

Adrian: Come on, put your hands together! That’s it up.

Rosie: I’m already exhausted!

Adrian: Just running up those stairs. Now, normally we’re used to the lights and we’re used to the cameras. This is a normal environment for us with the with the kitchen here, but we're not used to doing this in front of 1000 people.

Rosie: No not sure about this.

Adrian: So do you think we're going to be able to do it?

Rosie: Of course we are, 100%, 100% is actually a real honour and actually just listening then like how fantastic we're both so on board with this event, so I hope you had a lovely day and I hope we are just the cherry on top there as well.

Adrian: Well I can say that health and wellbeing if you eat our food, you will be guaranteed to live a healthy and very happy life. Would you say that?

Rosie: Well, will we Adrian?

Adrian: Well, we will see what happens.

Rosie: We are a bit of an unlikely partnership, and I guess that's why we are here today. So yes, I'm a professional nutritionist, and Rich is very, very good in the kitchen. Here's a trained chef so I'm a self taught cook and I think that's a wonderful combination. Probably why the shows done so well for such a long time. But we do 65 episodes, so we sure know, there's no way we can hide every nook and cranny. We know everything, and I think it's just we've come nice and close together, haven’t we as unlikely it is it is.

Adrian: We would only work this close together most of the time and we get to know each other. All the good things and all the bad things. But I really enjoy working with you Rosie and that's what today is all about. We're actually going to get behind the kitchen here and we're going to start working together and we're going to show you how to cook some lovely dishes and how well we work together and how lovely we can make some great food.

Rosie: A good health showdown.

Adrian: Alright.

Rosie: Alright should we begin.

Adrian: You're in pink and you start first we're going to start with your little kitchen.

Rosie: Love that is very nice.

Adrian: I'm going to turn this on for you. I think we got a little power button.

Rosie: This is the first thing when you have a partner here as well, they remember things when you don't remember anything. Sometimes when those lights come in, you can just - I just look to the side and he has remembered something and it goes vice versa, doesn't it? We do that all the time.

Adrian: And I also make sure that the pan is nice and hot. Put your hand in the pan like this and when it gets OH when it gets hot like that you know it's ready to go. So something I don't recommend. There we will cool down a little bit on it goes. This is not normal but we'll see if we can get this without burning these pans.

Rosie: Nice and hot on the pan there so I’m going to get you on my right hand side here. So I'm going to just do a very, very simple veggie dish. OK so. I can pretty much say here haven't got the stat on me, but I think a couple of years ago about one in every 10th person was eating the amount of vegetables that they should so we all need to eat more veggies. So of course their nutritionist comes in and they're going to try and make me veggies yeah, but I know that you want tasty so these are pretty much the most tastiest veggies that guaranteed you can never have. So please go home and try it yourself and we're starting with some zucchini and some carrots. Now I'm going to get you going 'cause I'm going to get you to do the classic Julian. So he's a French trained chef. But what I'm going to show you is that you don't need to be like that 'cause you can do real simple things like it spiraliser. And I can just relax here while he goes and gets nice and serious there on the chopping board.

Adrian: I like to cut nice and evenly and this Julian is basically what we call a match stick and you can see with a good sharp knife when it comes off like this, you've got this beautiful little long little strips there all the way through there except for the last bit when it falls over like that and you can see we've got these little lovely matchsticks there. And this is where the cameraman, if he's playing on your side, he’ll just move those aside. There and we have these lovely little matchsticks and see how good this cameraman is pulling focus there you like that. There we go. Here we go with that one. Here we go.

Rosie: It's just the start.

Adrian: I just want to have a go with the camera, no, ok.

Rosie: That’ll never happen.

Adrian: I did try to get ahold of that camera.

Rosie: So the thing as well as I mean things that you're not so great as sometimes, especially in the kitchen is outsource. Make sure that someone else can do it so that you can go and do what you are fantastic at. Which for me nice, simple and quick, where as you could labour on a dish for two, three hours. You've done slow roasted things like that, where as I’m like (tapping hands).

Adrian: Hours

Rosie: Hours.

Adrian: Weeks, days I could spend cooking dishes. It's fantastic.

Rosie: So I'm just going to put a little bit of oil on here. I'm just going to marry a few of these little ingredients together so I've got some garlic here, so just about 2 tablespoons of garlic 'cause of course vegetables it's all about how you flavour them. The other thing I'm going to show you as well as I'm really not going to cook them much. I feel like people have been teaching you to cook the hell out of vegetables. What we want to do is they don't need much whatsoever, so I'm just going to literally let them kiss a little bit of the heat and that's all we need to make sure that the flavours are there. The smaller you chop them as well, the easier that that's going to be too. So I've got some sriracha, I've got a little bit of hoisin sauce here as well, so things that we just have in our kitchen. Maybe they've been there for a long, long time. I'm not sure you might have to check. And a little bit of peanut butter here as well so about 2 tablespoons. So it's a bit of a sate here. You want to be nice and quick here, too, so we don't want that one to burn.

Adrian: I like it, that pan is really, really hot that one.

Rosie: So I've got a bit of water as well on the side just to turn it more into a bit of a paste. So this is literally as well. Probably one of the quickest stir fry, so life is hard. It's busy. We want to be able to come home, make sure that we prepared nice, healthy, nutritious meals. But we want to do it in a time that seems you know, really realistic and I feel like that's what a lot of our cooking it is really quite realistic, there.

Adrian: It's a lot easier to cook when you've got someone like me handing you the ingredients and then taking away all the dirty stuff.

Rosie: I do realize that I am blessed. There's all these little fairies that come and suddenly take everything as well. Everything turns out clean again. So absolutely wonderful.

Adrian: Your dishes are so simple that come together quickly

Rosie: Super simple.

Adrian: For you it's all about putting it together and being nutritious and healthy and tasty and-and

Rosie: Be realistic. And the people’s nutritionist, OK, I'm not gonna go and give you something where you have to go to the Himalayas to go and grab that ingredient. Stuff, you know you can get from your supermarket or from your health food store. I mean, I'm sure you'll notice in the supermarket It's so simple now to find ingredients that we used to have to go in the hunt for the at the health food store. There’s this whole section which makes us nutritionist very excited. You always laugh at the kind of things that I get excited about, don't you? He's not yet inviting me round to his house with all my nutritionist, friends.

Adrian: I just want you to put a big bloody steak on the plate. Please Rosie can you do that for me once? Just once in my life. A little bit of bacon. Maybe some bacon through their possibly?

Rosie: One day, one day it might happen, but I'm not sure you're going to be there to see it. It's going to be one of those days.

Adrian: You know what I got for Christmas a t-shirt with vegan on it? Here we go. That's what I get from her.

Rosie: Yeah a little bit of healthy banter is a good thing as well. So I've put some coriander in there. The zucchini, the carrot and a bit of lime. And it really doesn't need anymore than that. Adrian I've got a little plate just at the back there little blue rimmed one.

Adrian: I've got two. I've got a blue plate and a brown.

Rosie: I’ll go with that one please that would be lovely. Thank you very much. Now I'm just going to take that off the heat. Now you notice that took no time at whatsoever. I literally want everything to just get kissed. Just make sure that that flavour gets around.

Adrian: I like how you do that with the two spoons. I would normally do it with just tossing the pan around, but with a reduction you just mix it together.

Rosie: It’s-its almost a warm salad though, isn't it? So you know it's really, we are we put the veggies and we roast them for such a long time but they really don't need long at all because what we want to do is just have maximum flavour and maximum nutrition. So we're getting that when we do that now, of course you can add any meat you could had some chicken or some tofu or anything like that. This seasoning will be gorgeous.

Adrian: You could add meat to this couldn’t you?

Rosie: Yes you can.

Adrian: Can you please?

Rosie: Yep. On board he's on board.

Adrian: That looks fantastic.

Rosie: Well there you go.

Adrian: Lots of nuts in there. Lots of veggies in there. It is a great simple little dish and I think should I get someine to try it. What do you think?

Rosie: I think you should Adrian. I think it would be waste if someone didn't try that little bit of extra coriander there. We do love our herbs.

Adrian: And I'm just going to grab some of this Rosie and I'll just go down to the audience and I think there might be someone here. Dave didn't know I was going to do this so he didn't have his camera off the sticks here and I won't go too close to the microphone. Would you like something? Can I, can I feed you a little bit of Rosie's lovely dish? Rosie I've got I've got I've been a victim associate.

Rosie: This is this wasn't in the risk assessment.

Adrian: Right, you know I’m the wrong person to come into your life. Here we go. I'm just gonna get it. Is this OK? Here we go just.

Rosie: That's how I get my staff lunch pretty much every day. They’re lovely here aren’t they.

Adrian: Is that delicious? Is it flavoursome? Lots of crunch to it, she said. It's a beautiful dish Rosie.

Rosie: Yay, fantastic.

Adrian: One foot right one we've done.

Rosie: Well, alright, well now we’re full of veggies that means that we're on to something else. We've got a nice satiated tummy, but let's have a little more I think so I think it's your turn.

Adrian: Well I thought about what I was going to cook today and you know you would think I would put some bacon, some meat or that sort of thing. But this is about we haven't seen each other for quite some time, so it's about cooking something for you, so I'm going to make you a dish that is vegetarian, which is something that's a new word that I've just learned.

Rosie: Which is very nice. He's been holding space for my vegetarianism, which I wasn't sure when I started three years ago, and I was like. Bit nervous, you know, but really, you’ve been very good, haven't you? In that part of it as well, was holding space for something a bit different because we learn from each other, don't we?

Adrian: We do, we do lots of things and I'll just turn this on? I just wanna make sure that this is on. If there is a technologist here that knows how to work this thing, this is an induction.

Rosie: That’s certainly not us is it.

Adrian: One of the beautiful things when you are working in a studio. This would already be on, so if you could just put that on for me. Around here right here. This is our stove fairy who's going to make sure it all goes on beautifully. Can we have a round of applause for Jamie? He travels around with us and makes us look really good.

Rosie: It takes a village I tell ya.

Adrian: These technical issues? You know what you're doing. You can put that on Rosie’s stove. That's it. Beautiful. Now can we have a little courtesy or something to go off and, so there little ferry there we go? Thank you very much. It all goes beautifully fantastic. Yeah Rosie over here. I'm just going to sit on this side here. I'm going to make some ricotta cheese gnocchi with some beautiful vegetables and some olive oil and a little bit of shaved Pecorino on top. But we're actually going to make the gnocchi from scratch, and this is a really, really easy recipe in my bowl. Here we are going to grab that spoon Rosie and start to break it down. I've got some ricotta cheese and if you happen to have a pen and a notebook, this is a great recipe to write down, because this is really fast. If you've got kids and I have three young boys, there is nothing more dangerous. On this planet than a hungry child. So you want to be able to put together a dish really, really quickly, and this is a great one. You've got 500 grams of ricotta cheese firm dry ricotta cheese always works well. And into that I'll put 150 grams of grated Parmesan cheese that if you want a grate it yourself and it might be a good idea to get it about yourself. Or you can buy the packet grated t's up to you or going to a delicatessen.

Rosie: We’ve gone for a double cheese here. So again, like you know, every time you use double cheese a nutritionist dies, you know that like I know that. Full flat down dead.

Adrian: I know that Rosie but as I told you so many times, I'm not a nutritionist. I don't care how long you live. All I care about is having beautiful, delicious, tasty food. In goes are free range egg, one little egg in there and then to that I'm going to add some salt. Just I'll get you look over there Rosie. Have look over there. Then in goes some salt. There we go and also when you're doing when you're putting salt in there you always make sure you put a little bit over your shoulder there 'cause the devil's always watching over your shoulder. He's always watching over both shoulders as well. I'm sorry it’s just the way it works. You're mixing that together beautifully. I've got everything in there . Now we travel around a lot and do different shows and I will give you some advice. If you are traveling around and you are taking ingredients for you, don't ever take it for like this.

Rosie: Na don’t do that.

Adrian: Just just a little tip. Pro tip there. Don't take it like that. You will get stopped always carry it in their packet. Now that's coming to. Trust me, trust me. Now that's coming together beautifully. What I'll do Rosie is I'm going to.

Rosie: You're never coming back here. Not happening.

Adrian: They'll have our picture on the on customs won’t they. Now I'm just going to scrunch that with my hands. You can see it's coming together beautifully. I like to scrunch it together with my hands here and this is one of those dishes you can get a kid to do. I mean, this is probably why my mother got me to do it. And you know, got me to make now that.

Rosie: For that energy, an outlet.

Adrian: My grandmother would do it as well. She would get me to make the gnocchi and my job was to mix up that little egg with a fork and then put it into the ricotta. And I would sit on her knee doing it and then at the age of 19 she said Adrian it's time you got off my knee. You’re just getting big and heavy? That won’t ever end. Now I'll just kneed this a little bit and I should show you how quickly this comes together.

Rosie: Now it gets messy. I know this so this again I've been working for a very, very long time. We know our strengths and weaknesses. And this is when I need to go full velocity.

Adrian: And the reason we wear an apron is because we do dust on with a bit of flour. Just stand there. Yep, see it works, it works really well. Just do that again.

Rosie: It was Mardi Gras last weekend. Not this weekend.

Adrian: I just dust that board with flower like that. Now the thing you're looking for with gnocchi and making the dough, see how it comes together. But you sort of want to know that you've got the right amount of flour. One of the things I do and you need to get right in close here Dave. Can you see that on the screen? When I push it in my that's really good camera work Dave, look at that look at closely he’s got. But see how it Springs back a little bit. That's what you're looking for. You push it in and it comes back about 1/3 and that's how you know you've got the right amount of flour in it. And once you've got that, it's just a matter of cutting it into little pieces like this. And then like that. And Rosie, I'm going to get you to roll it out once I've dusted it with a little bit more flower ready for the flower. Do you think there's enough flour on your on your apron. Just shake your apron onto it there we go. Dust that with a bit of flour like that and then we can start to.

Rosie: Should I do it with my feet or my hands due to Corona virus. What do I do? Ah I didn’t practice that with you did I.

Adrian: Just roll it out like that. We just gotta follow the script. We always operate by script.

Rosie: If someone ever gives us a script, we're always like just take that back.

Adrian: I mean, we film 65 episodes and three episodes per day. There is not one single script that we use it’s all ad Lib. We just sort of.

Rosie: We still not fired though are we.

Adrian: We make it up as we go along but they also have editing as well. So they take out all this stuff that we're not supposed to say or do. There we go through rolling that out there and we see we've got some beautiful see how easy it is. It comes up beautifully now hoping this comes together beautifully and I reckon it will I'll just put it like that.

Rosie: People think that gnocchi is hard don’t they. But it's actually not and if you get some of these things under your belt and you do them a few times extremely impressive to do at home, but actually don't take that long whatsoever.

Adrian: Exactly that's it. We've made the fresh gnocchi and I'll just just my hands like this. I'm just I just flour everywhere. I don't know who's going to clean up this mess after us, so I don't know. It's just someone's going to have to do that. And then with the gnocchi board, I just cut it into little pieces so we get these little bits here. See that lovely fresh little dumplings just like me when I was a kid, a little fluffy little dumpling, can you imagine that. I'll get you to hold that if you can keep cutting, yeah, now just come over here and turn this on. Just program for – ah that’s hot. But that's how you like. That never ends.

Rosie: That one doesn't, ever.

Adrian: You think after all these years that it would get you. But after all these years of working in a kitchen, Rosie and handling hot stuff, I don't have any feeling in my hands anymore. But just in case you're wondering, I still have feeling in my heart.

Rosie: Do you?

Adrian: Just just a little bit, just off to the side there now I've got my onion and garlic in there and I've got my pans nice and hot and with a sharp knife I'm going to take some garlic. There we go smash it like that and chop it now. Garlic is great for getting a good night sleep. You know when you get that tap on the shoulder in the middle of the night, you just breathe out and bang. You get a good nights sleep. (laughter) Now the other thing, when you are using a very sharp knife always keep your eyes on the knife, it is the most important thing you never want to take your eyes off and I could - you just cut yourself and stuff goes everywhere. It's really really important. Just keep your eyes on it. Yeah I just have to say. Is anyone medically trained here because I have cut myself and I sprayed the entire front couple of rows in blood.

Rosie: No you haven’t.

Adrian: No I have never done that. Water is boilding it’s nice and hot and more. Just grab some extra Virgin olive oil and will do this properly to the camera see, this the camera. This is how we do it on camera. We just pour it like that. Oh look at this lovely sponsored extra Virgin Olive Oil on it goes out that. I will say if you are using olive oil make sure it is Australian extra Virgin Olive oil into the pan goes the onions. Those lovely thin onions in goes the garlic there as well and I'll just stir that around and we give it a bit of a toss like that. This pan still stays on and then we go. It's coming up beautiful.

Rosie: Nice simple cooking. That's what we like as well. Some simple ingredient it doesn't have to be over complicated and. I think, especially while we do quite a lot of Mediterranean, we love Italian food as well because, you know, I'm all about the blue zones that people live in over 100 years old, which I reckon.

Adrian: I got blue sign on Blue Zone on.

Rosie: That's going to be out there anything. I think that's Blue Zone about you, my friend.

Adrian: Rosie just turnover there for a second. There we go in goes the salt. Very important you add salt to the whatever you ‘cause salt helps to bring out the flavour and makes it more flavoursome and luscious. And that's what its all about.

Rosie: Gnocchi loves salt and salt love gnocchi.

Adrian: Exactly you know I say something very similar to that. Salt loves me, me loves salt, some people might have heard it before. Now you can see the onions are caramelizing beautifully. Got some nice caramelization on the outside of it and into that, I'm going to add some vegetables, but I will show you something Rosie have a look at this. This is how I know that peas are nice and fresh. I've had three little boys. My son sitting at the table. I tried this trick here. Now, thinking I was really smart showing these three little boys that little trick. We cannot have fresh peas in the house anymore. There's always mushy peas. My wife's like what have you done? There we go.

Rosie: There's a lot means that at schools happenin’ isn’t there.

Adrian: Yeah I don’t know, I just tell him that just like their mother, but no one ever believes me. In goes some peas, some broad beans, some asparagus.

Rosie: How beautiful is that?

Adrian: And this lovely little large zucchini. Quite expensive, but for you, my dear, I will spend as much money as I can to make you a delicious dish.

Rosie: He does treat me well.

Adrian: In that goes there like that. So all of those vegetables are straight in there. We also need some herbs. I've got some basil, some mince, some dills, chives and some parsley goes in there and I reckon it's time to pop the gnocchi into the water. Let's do it alright with my spatula. I'm going to pick them up and the salt is going to go into the water. We say that the water should be as I know, as salty as the Mediterranean Sea, in it goes like that the gnocchi and with a spatula, plastic spatula we call it because in really really easy like that, they're going all over the place.

Rosie: Like little gnocchi bombs everywhere, isn't it? What about your camera, and then invoice the company.

Adrian: Yeah, this is the thing when you throw it in the water and the water's boiling got salt in there. You want to turn the water around like this and get a whirlpool forming and that will stop it from sticking to the bottom and then very gently turn the spoon around on the bottom to make sure none of it’s sticking. And then we're going nicely. Beautifully now, this is the stage I'd like to make it even more delicious. I put a little bit of butter. Can you hold that for me, Rosie? So if a nutritionist is holding it then it's OK to use. There we go. I'm just going to put a little bit of butter in here. If you just go to the pan here, I'll just put a little bit of butter in. Just a little bit.

Rosie: Don’t encourage him.

Adrian: That is what makes it so delicious and Rosie. I've told you this before that when I add the butter in in small amounts like this with the peas in the asparagus, there's actually a chemical reaction. All the fat and cholesterol that's in the butter. The nasty stuff you tell me I can't have is actually rising like steam into the atmosphere, and you see that fat and cholesterol coming up. And when it gets to the top, Rosie trust me, it's actually going to help repair the ozone layer.

Rosie: I think you need to change the kind of rooms you're hanging out in. This is this is not OK information. Wizards and scientists.

Adrian: Have a look in there have a look at the gnocchi coming to the surface that is perfection isn't it coming up to the top and that's how you know it's cooked as soon as it comes to the top there. It's ready to go now, what I do is I throw the herbs in there, the chives the dill.

Rosie: Easy way of getting medicinal nutrients into there as well. By doing that.

Adrian: I know - I know you said to -

Rosie: We just see my mouth move but you don't know what it says do you.

Adrian: Let's have it that you can see the gnocchi is coming to the surface and then all you need to do is just with a spider. They call these things as spider and just pop it into the gnocchi like that. Have a look at that, this is where we get an oo and an ahh from the audience. Come on, give me some love here. Oh, look at that. They are a good audience aren’t they. So the gnocchi goes in there and it looks delicious. Is that look like a fluffy little dumpling?

Rosie: That looks lovely.

Adrian: Just coming to the surface is beautiful ricotta gnocchi and then I think I’ve nearly got it all out of the top there and then of course we need some more just to make it flavoursome. Rosie have a look over there just here we go just a little bit of salt in there as well. And of course some pepper. We need lots of pepper in there as well.

Rosie: Oh they packed the smallest pepper in the world again they do that to us all the time.

Adrian: I like it big a pepper mill that is easy to get around. But you know, by the time you've turned it a couple of times it’s out of pepper it's done.

Rosie: We have so many tricks on Good Chef Bad Chef when we're filming that literally sometimes we forget actually what we're supposed to do is cooking show because we just trying to trick each other, but I think that's probably what makes it so authentic and why it's done so well as well, isn't it? Is we genuinely want to try to make each other laugh.

Adrian: Exactly which we play alot of tricks on each other all the time, but I think if we come across as having fun, and that's what we try and do have a lot of fun together. It comes across the audience, and I think that's the whole thing. Now I’ll just give that a bit of a toss like that. You can see that's a great way of mixing it around and then watch this one that’s it nice and close in there Dave, ready for that one. Look at that going there like that are come on. Give me some love here is that gorgeous there we go! And then of course, to make it even more delicious, we've got some pecorino cheese. It goes on it all the way around and Dave’s watching you go in a circle like that is that look good Rosie.

Rosie: If you are gonna do it. Do it. Well, that's what I say. Like I'm not one of these nutritionists that goes, you know you can't ever have this stuff. The 80/20 rule is very much where I'm at 80% of the time trying to be as healthy as possible 20% of the time. Indulge and don't even think about it. Just enjoy it, then hop back on the wagon the next day. Adrian:

Adrian: I'll let you in on a little secret when Rosie when the cameras go off Rosie tucks into everything I cook. So there a Dan? Is there a Dan here, I believe it's his birthday today. Dan can you come up here come up bring your chair darling there, we go bring a chair you'll need a chair? Where is your chair Dan, you need a little chair? Grab one of those ones here we go grab that one. Now Dan I want you to put the chair right here 'cause it's Dan's birthday today and they wanted me to do something very very special.

Rosie: Be nice Adrian.

Adrian: Come over. Come over here, Dan want you to sit down there on the chair. There we go and I want you to - right over here. Gotta sit down on the chair. Now this is my little birthday present to you. Then there we go. We've got a camera there photographer. There we go. Another one there your career is over tiger. That's it. You're done now. Can I just feed you there with a look at that? It's like a trained seal, isn't it? What do you think of that? Is that delicious? So much.

Rosie: Yeah. Honestly, I'm sorry I'm so sorry. Why did you come over here? Honestly. OK, what I want you to do is just slice that banana in half. So of course, have a bit of savoury? Bit of sweet is absolutely fine as well, and go low on the refined sugar and I'm going to show you exactly how to do that because we have nature's lollies all over the place that look pretty much like this. OK, so those lovely natural sugar especially when you put heat into them. They become so beautiful and that sweetness comes through even more, which is fabulous. So I've got a little bit of butter here. Now, Adrian what I'm going to get you to do while I am just going to grill these bananas. This is such a beautiful aesthetic dish because even their eyes as well don't be most definitely. Going to get to mix a bit of cinnamon with that yoghurt. I've got some almond butter there as well and some vanilla extracts or yogurt. Extremely British. I'm just going to put a bit of butter on there as well. Now butter is fine in moderation and when using the right way, so keeps the heat really well when cooking so fat is fine, sometimes as well.

Adrian: Only little bits, as I said, I have learned a lot haven’t I.

Rosie: You have learned alot, sometimes.

Adrian: No you are just grilling straight on that griddle pan.

Rosie: Straight onto the grill pan there so just a little bit of butter and all that natural sweetness will come out, but you could use anything. You could use nectarines peaches, all sorts of different things don't freeze, particularly lovely plums anything like that. Just lubricate a little and then you can get those lovely grill marks and that sweetness just starts coming through as well. So just a nice infused yogurt basically, this one is here so you can just whisk it up there. That's it, beautiful. Now we’re adding that cinnamon, adding the cinnamon in the yogurt as well. Not only we gotta protein in there as well, but we have this cinnamon which is helping a control our sugar levels. Now sugar, blood sugar levels are really, really important. That's why we're trying to always. Whenever we have carbohydrates or to have a little bit of protein in there as well. So we just slow everything down a little. Now I'm going to show you a nice natural caramel. Now when you try this, this will become your go to. It's absolutely unbelievable, look at your banana duties.

Adrian: I could do that. I can grill the bananas.

Rosie: Lovely. So just got some dates here, but you can use lots of different things. We got honey we've got Maple syrup so there is a lot of natural sweetness that we can use. I've got a bit of coconut milk there as well so nice and thick. Sorry coconut cream just on there. I've got some Maple syrups about third of a Cup. So great for the vegans as well. If you didn't know.

Adrian: The-the who?

Rosie: The V Word. We don't normally we don't talk about it often. Now we don't talk about it often. Little pinch of salt, which is gorgeous. I'm sure you've had salted caramel before, but it's actually really lovely and we need salt, so I know I looked away quite a lot there, but the salt actually really regulates us a lot so I know things we can have lots of mood swings and things like that. This is the ultimate hung over breakfast because we got the potassium there from the bananas. We got a bit of salt there as well and we're going to do is just help are electrolytes and make sure that we stay nice like that. So these are little tricks that not many nutritionists than talk about. There are little tricks to make sure you have a nice ‘dolce vita’ good life. But in the morning you don't feel so cramped.

Adrian: You could also have a steak to level of these things as well. Could you know?

Rosie: Quite no, no, I don't think so. No, just in that now. So we have got a blender look good beautiful. Now we have got a blender here. But I'm going to get you on that one.

Adrian: I will take that for you and blend it over here. Just hang on a second. I've got a technical issue here we go, oh. That's a really good blender. Rosie - I can't believe it. That's a really, really, and silent. Are you sponsored by them. Must be. Yeah, there we go.

Rosie: How you sponsorship with those guys. So yeah again, little tricks of TV so you've always got taken with a little pinch of salt as well. But yeah, there's all these lovely tricks that we are happy to talk about is out 'cause we find them quite funny don’t we. The fairies that run around.

Adrian: You always have couple of things really because if you turn it on there's a lot of noise and you can't talk over a lot of noise.

Rosie: There's a lot of editing that happens as well, which I think we need to talk about. There was something I wanted to say as well. Is that we're encouraged were in the creative industry I would say as well as in the food and health industry. And it's really nice because we are kind of encouraged to bring our whole self to work to be 100% if not 110%, sometimes ourselves, and I think that's such a beautiful thing. And maybe that is something that should happen in other things. You know, in the corporate sector and stuff, just turn up to work, be yourself, 'cause it's really encouraged in our industry and I love that it makes our job very fun, doesn't it?

Adrian: I don't think I could be anyone else Rosie.

Rosie: No, no, I don’t think so either.

Adrian: Can I start to plate this up for you?

Rosie: Yes, please. So you can have it with just the skins on there as well. But really the great thing is you can use this.

Adrian: There we go, cut, cut two outcomes of the commercials.

Rosie: I don't outsource the dainty jobs to him. Got thick thumbs.

Adrian: So you think comes that's that's quite hot so I don't recommend you doing this at home. Maybe use a pair of tongs or something that would probably be a lot easier.

Rosie: He said they don't have much feeling anymore. Do they not? Also a couple of lovely bananas - that smell. I don't know if you can smell. It is absolutely delicious and this is when you can really show your personality in cooking as well. There's a bunch of different foods and styles that I like. Like you don't have to cook everything across the board. I love Sri Lankin cooking. And I love kind of desserts like this, but if you got me baking, it's not my favourite thing on Earth, so I don't really want to do it much. Find your thing that you like to do and just go crazy. So I like a little bit of art, bit take modern on you.

Adrian: We call that freestyle plating Rosie freestyle like that. She's freestyle placing.

Rosie: I've got a bit of the yogurt there as well. You can go freestyle to get rid of some of that energy.

Adrian: We’re going to load it all. We got a hot load it. Because the bananas are hot.

Rosie: That's it, we also got some raspberries to bring some antioxidants here as well, so we want to make sure that we live for a very long time of anti aging properties. Here too, of course, eating seasonally is a wonderful thing to do 'cause it will actually save you money as well as all taste better. It will taste how it should. Bit of extra cinnamon to make sure that our blood sugar levels. Stay nice and good. And a few coconut flakes just to make it look nice. A bit of a different texture there as well, so we have a contemporary modern art dish.

Adrian: Can we have a round of applause for that please. It's a banana split with a healthy twist to it. I like that.

Rosie: That's it, that's it.

Adrian: Yeah, we're going to do something. I'm going to do a dessert and then will put both desserts here and we will bring some out some victims I mean, some contestants up to taste them. I'm going to come over here Rosie and I'm going to show you a very, very fast chocolate mousse that you can put together in a couple of minutes. And I've got these glasses over here.

Rosie: It’s like someone has been rock climbing.

Adrian: This yeah, we’ve thrown some, throwing some flower on the floor. I'll just show you. Just have a look over there Rosie, there we go. I’ll put that there. Oh look how clean the Bench is. Now it starts really easily with cream whipped cream, and if you want to make a real chocolate mousse you would melt, melt some chocolate in there and some eggs. I have just whisked up some cream until it's nice. We call this a soft peak and what I do with that is I just fold some drinking chocolate all the way through. A good sort of measured amount, a quarter of a cup. So drinking chocolate goes straight in there. Give that a bit of a tap like this and some sugar. Rosie a little table teaspoon of sugar goes in there as well and you just fold that around. You can see. The drinking chocolate dissolves and becomes a part of the actual mousse, and it comes together beautifully. See it becomes nice and chocolatey. There you’re looking at this thinking you know is that going to be chocolate enough? There's only one way to tell and Rosie this is the way you do it and just in case you come up here later on to taste something, this is how we do it on TV's isn’t it.

Rosie: That is

Adrian: ooh, goodness Rosie, that is so delicious. I can't believe the moisture, the flavour. The chocolate in there and it's so rich and creamy and delicious. You like that that's how it goes together and we've got this together beautifully. And then I'm just going to take this and pop some of it into the glass and this is the personality part that you like to talk about, Rosie here. We've got some cream in there. We've got some chocolate in there and it came together in a couple of minutes and you just pop it into here like this. Now this is the desert that I pull out my kids love this because

Rosie: I thought mine was quick but that is very quick.

Adrian: Really, really quick because if they have washed the dishes or cleared the table and not punched the lights out of each other, 'cause teenage boys you know they like I will make something like this up really fast so I can just get back to just some peace and quiet and it goes like that. Now here you can really dress it up. Rosie got some blueberries? Can you load them up with blue? I've got some raspberries going on there as well. Look at these little rascals they are beautiful really really fresh. When my little boy, Rudy was was was a little tiny little tucker, he would put them all in his little fingers. Loading up his little fingers. And then give them to me to eat I would pretend to chew his fingers off.

Rosie: That’s gorgeous, that’s gorgeous.

Adrian: Oh no they're not so gorgeous now teenagers. Where do they come from? My God they were my little precious little babies. And now they're just wild beasts.

Rosie: They appear at 3:00 PM from beds like that.

Adrian: In the morning they get up and eat breakfast cereal and just ridiculous. I think what we should do is freeze them at about 6. And then defrost them when they get to 22, I think that's probably what we should do.

Rosie: You're going to be on the front of the Daily Telegraph now.

Adrian: Can I say that? I probably can't cannot. So my boysenberries go on there as well. Lovely. A little bit of Maple syrup on those. I'll let you pour the maple syrup on there and I've got some Coulis. Basically, Coulis is just raspberries, strawberries. Whatever berries you've got. Cooked up with some ah with some sugar and some sugar and a little bit of vanilla in there and the good thing about Cooley is when your berries go a little bit softer, a little bit mushy. Pop them into the freezer when you get enough of them. You can make up a beautiful Coulis on it goes like that. Looks great, doesn’t it.

Rosie: I think that's actually the quickest one that you've ever done.

Adrian: Probably probably pop that on there and I'll just squeeze some of the passion fruit on top there so it just makes it even more delicious and luscious and I think I've got just about everything on there as well, except for some mint. Because it is a fancy dessert, we've gotta load it up with some fresh mint on top there like that and make it look nice and pretty.

Adrian: You love your fresh mint don’t you.

Adrian: Yeah, gotta have fresh herbs. I put fresh herbs in everything. That's what brings

Rosie: What helps digestive system anyway it does.

Adrian: It does apparently. Anyway, I've got some icing sugar here and this is the fun part. We just go up nice and high drizzle some icing sugar over the top like that and all over the bench because someone else is going to clean this up for us. Hopefully here we go. It's usually me isn't it already got cleaning up on like that? And what would you have to say that it's a delicious, we got a banana split and we've got a chocolate mousse. They both look delicious. Should we get someone up to try?

Rosie: I think so.

Adrian: Ladies would you like to come up and have a taste? You’re not on the witness protection program or anything, or you never know. I think that once, I actually had the guy who ran the witness protection program in Victoria. You two ladies would you like to come up here and have a little taste of this come up? Over here like this, we've got the banana splits. Get it all happening. Oh nearly lost that one.

Rosie: Showing love through foods is very nice thing as well. I think if anyone likes cooking at home it's a lovely thing to do.

Adrian: Yeah come over here. What's your name, Donna? I'm going to get you to try the mousse. Come over here and taste this, some raspberries would be nice and close with this one, Dave. A little taste. Is it delicious? Oh come on is that delicious? Oh, Rosie, I don't think I'm going home. Would you like to try the banana split? There we go

Rosie: Think we gotta new Good Chef.

Adrian: Come over here, I'm just going to take this off for you like that and pop it over there. Have a little taste of Rosie's dessert.

Rosie: Treating women the way they should. Hey, that is lovely.

Adrian: Is that delicious? It's nice, it's got that beautiful banana and the caramel flavour of the date. It's amazing how it comes together beautifully now I have to say. In what, maybe 20/30 minutes, we've been able to put together four fantastic dishes. And this is how it is. It is. We've got some great people around us and help us how to make us look good. But you know, if we can do four great dishes on a stage here like this, you can cook one of them in 20 minutes at home.

Rosie: Very much so. If that's all you take away is just go home, try it yourself. That's it.

Adrian: Thank you very much, thank you, thank you. Thank you very much. Going to fight you, you know they're going to rip it out of your hands now that's all yours you can take that now. I believe we have some question and answer. I believe there's an iPad around with a question and answer. Here we go off to stage.

Rosie: Oh it’s your friend? There we go let you answer the door.

Adrian: Thank you, what's that? Dan and I have got something going. Here we go. I'm watching you, big boy, here we go. Would you like to ask us some questions?

MC: An anonymous are you bothered by some of the food nutrition cooking advice at the Instagram influencers put out there? Are they misleading us?

Rosie: The nutrition industry is very noisy right now and I think people that are qualified it is. Yeah, it it doesn't annoy us a little bit, but you know what? It's like the knocking. It will rise to the surface, the ones that are the ones that are qualified and are saying all the right things. And do you know what? Nutrition actually hasn't changed in 20 years the same thing that is the same principles. The fads come and go, but ultimately you know. Eating predominantly plant based and things like that. Make sure you get all the macro nutrients in whole food that hasn't changed over the years. So yeah, it's noisy, but the right people will rise to the surface and I think there will be a hushing down of the influences there as well.

Adrian: I just turned the volume down on my phone.

MC: Up OK question from Amy. There are times when one is too busy to make really nutritious meals so they do meal prep to prepare for their week. But this can create boredom with food. How do you make meal prep more exciting?

Adrian: Turn on the TV channel 10 four o'clock and you have Rosie and I cooking wonderful dishes that are nutritious, tasty, healthy and easy to make. What do you think?

Rosie: No joke, ours are actually really freezer friendly. Most of the things that we do is we try to get in the brain of the busy lifestyle. What kind of busy type food that we can make for those people. So honestly, you should tune in and we're not actually flogging it.

Adrian: And if you don't do a little bit, there's also YouTube. There's lots of other things. Instagram I suppose. YouTube mainly where you can pick up some great cooking ideas, some great tips that are quick and easy to put together.

Rosie: Go seasonal as well, because then you can just change it up. You look forward, you know, as soon as you walk into the supermarket that things are the front in the fresh section that you know have a lower price. Their seasonal. It's as simple as that so you can go you farmers market and ask them questions. Well, it's very simple walking. What's the cheapest and the closer to the front? It's seasonal. So try and do that and then you get excited about the next season there will be new ingredients coming up so.

MC: OK, another question. What is the most popular and healthy meal for kids between ages between 10 and 15 and they always want pasta out all the time.

Adrian: Kids are the most horrible creatures together sometimes and picky and nothing can touch and you know you can't put the broccoli next the other one. What my advice, I get that all the time. It's disgusting that do you know who I am? It’s wat I have to say to them. And just trying to get it across it that you know that they do it to really muck around with your mind. My feeling is that the only thing that kids at that age have to that they can say no to is what they put in their mouth so they can give you a hard time about that. That control my thing is that if you can get your children involved in cooking the meal in some small part, they're more likely to eat it. It's not a promise, but that's what I find.

Rosie: Do you ever say go to your room and read my book.

Adrian: They don’t listen to me. I’m just Dad. Shut up Dad you are an idiot.

Rosie: But yeah, the fun one. I think you know the bangers and mash, the classics, the beans on toast, but just make them homemade. Let them learn how to do 'cause when they go off to University or wherever they end up doing it, they will remember how to make those five ingredient meals that are very, very simple. Those classics then go classic, not too, they'll get braver as they get older. You know I only liked olives about five years ago, so let's hope for all of us.

MC: It's obvious you both are excited and passionate about what you do. Was your food career always obvious to you or did it take time to find your passion?

Rosie: You can go first.

Adrian: I love cooking. I actually spent some time in the kitchen while I was going, going to school and I fell in love with cooking and I decided the end of year 12. I wasn't going to be a, I had my pilots license at 16 and everyone thought I was going to be a pilot. I decided when I finish my VC exam that I was going to become a chef that was way before there was a long time ago. So it's. Dinosaur years but in those days to be a chef wasn't it wasn't what it is now. So my, my parents, my teachers, everyone was horrified that I was going to become a chef but I love it. I wouldn't do anything else. It's taking me to around the world I get to cook lots of great food for lots of lovely people. I would not do anything else in the whole world.

Rosie: Yep he is one of the most passionate chefs I've ever met I must say. For myself as well. I actually lost my health when I was 13 to 14 years old and it was going through that journey. Having the medical system fail me a little bit. I'm from a little small town in Cormel so it wouldn't do the best job. It's improved so much more now, but I had to go down the complementary therapy route. And a nutritionist basically made me feel better with food and I realized this is powerful stuff. This is actually medicine. So I believe my path was set then to do this forever.

MC: Lucky you both are to do something that you love so much. Finally, the perennial question, how can we camouflage vegetables so that kids can have more variety?

Adrian: Put them in a pie. A great way of getting lots of vegetables into dishes we know Bolognese works really well with a good food processor you can blitz up carrots, zucchini, onions, garlic, capsicum, lots of herbs. You can blitz them up and cook them with a little bit of mince meat, and you can disguise all of those vegetables beautifully. The kids will never know as long as they don't see you making it, that's my thing, but I suppose you know we call in the chef business we call vegetables garnish. It just makes the meat look good.

Rosie: And that's the movement I'm trying to make and change, so my advice there would be is I mean, spiralisers are things like that are great 'cause they feel like they're having Bolognese and stuff like that. But another thing is to get them out in the garden and actually let them see you know from the ground up how those vegetables and fruit are made, if they see that growing everyday, they’re like whoa it has got bigger and bigger. They're going to want to eat it 100%. They don't want to miss out, oh na stay away while you eat my beetroot I made for six months do you know what I mean they're going to want to eat it, so get them involved.

Adrian: I’m going to introduce you to my kids and see if we can try that.

MC: Not my experience on my kids wanted zucchini so and I said what's that and I said it's a Lebanese carrot.

Rosie: Nice, nice

Adrian: Mighty children. That's another thing like that.

MC: After a while they go it kind of tastes like zucchini. No no, no, no chicken.

Adrian: It's green chicken.

MC: There we go. Thank you so much. How fun was that? Put your hands together please within church bad.

Adrian and Rosie: Thank you thank you.

Closing Address

The Hon Steven Miles, Minister for Health and Minister for Ambulance Services

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Now to close our event today, our final speaker is one of our strongest allies for female empowerment. He led the passage of laws to decriminalise abortion focused on a focused a spotlight on conditions and age care facilities secured 2 record health budgets of 18 and 19 billion dollars, respectively. Fought against the Federal Government hospital funding cuts and hired more health professionals across the state, including nearly 6000 more nurses and midwives. He's also secured a long overdue pay rise for Queensland paramedics with the remainder of his term his focus is disease prevention and delivering better value for the state’s health investment. Please put your hands together for Queensland's Minister for Health and Minister for Ambulance Services, the Honourable Steven Miles.


Honourable Steven Miles:

Oh, good afternoon everyone let me acknowledge the traditional owners of the land right gathered on and pay my respects to the elders past and present. I'm struck by what a tough gig I have are standing between that fantastic performance and what I think is probably a glass of wine for you all at the closing. Sometimes I think I'd be better suited to giving your cooking demonstration then being the health minister, but here I am as the health minister and it's my great honour to address you and officially close the Aspiring Women Leaders’ Summit.

This is my third of these summits and it's been a great pleasure to see them grow both in size and in their program and in their ambition, and I understand this year we had to run a ballot to determine who could actually come. Being here was just so popular an it's entirely fitting that Queensland Health should lead this summit. Although we have people joining us from other places, Queensland Health is the biggest employer of women in Queensland. 74% of the Queensland Health workforce is women. That means we employ 81,463 Queensland women and every one of them in big ways and small, inspire and lead every single day and I'm chuffed that you've had a chance today to meet with and hear from some of the women leaders I get to work with and get to be inspired by every single day.

You've heard from Barbara Phillips, whose vision really has seen the growth of this event as well as so much else that we do in Queensland Health. You've heard from our Robyn Littlewood, our leader of our Health and Wellbeing Queensland. The people will be out teaching you how to cook all of these fantastic meals and how to be more active.

I wanted to tell you that when I was first appointed over two years ago, I said to Queensland Health, get me all the experts get me all the experts on obesity. I want to talk about how we can make a difference and they brought Robyn along and she led that discussion as a world-renowned expert. But she didn't talk to me about what we needed to do. She brought along her patients who had experienced the challenges of obesity who had been with her on a journey to change their lives and that allowed me to see that challenge through their eyes, not through mine or through those of a doctor, and I've got no doubt that Robyn will make sure that through Health and Wellbeing Queensland we see those challenges through the eyes of communities affected by obesity.

I know you've heard from Haylene Grogan and our new, relatively new Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Chief Health Officer, and while that role might be new, Haylene is not new to the advocacy for better health outcomes for our First Nations people, and indeed our workforce delivering those outcomes. She is much loved in Queensland Health. Very welcome back and I know well respected across our indigenous communities.

You didn't get to hear from another of our aspiring women, inspiring women leaders Jeanette Young, Chief Health Officer. She's gotta bit going on at the moment. It's a bit busy, but what you will have seen in recent weeks is that Jeanette is incredibly well respected right across Queensland. In fact, when Jeanette speaks, Queenslanders listen and not just that, but what you want you don't get to see is at a national level when Jeanette speaks other state’s health systems listen. The leaders of health across this country listen.

I've just come from a press conference with Jeanette where in this job just about every day you get to do something you never thought you'd have to do. And today I had to assure all of Queensland that if they ran out of toilet paper, we get them some. Yep. Not in a kind of passed some under the cubical kind of way, but in the don't go to the shops and buy all the toilet paper sort of way.

I know you heard, I know you heard from my good friend and colleague Di Farmer and I've said that a lot of these kind of events, I'm one of the first Ministers in the world who got to serve in a government that was 50% women in a cabinet that was 50% women with the Premier who was a woman and a Deputy Premier and Treasurer who is a woman and what happens then? As you make different decisions, you have different processes, you prioritize different things. And I've seen that first hand and many of those many of those things are high profile and everyone gets to hear about them. But some of them are lower profile and we don't talk so much about them, and I could, I could spend all night taking you through examples of that.

But I want to give you just one, you know until early last year, if you were the victim of a sexual assault and you wanted a forensic examination, you could not have one unless you decided you wanted to talk to police. Now, understandably many people, mostly women, in those circumstances, they're not ready to talk to police. They're not sure if they want to talk to police. And so from July last year we introduced what we turned just in case right gets so that you could have a forensic examination and then we would hold those samples until you made a decision down the track about whether you wanted to press charges or not. And since we in the first six months since we introduced that 100 more people chose to have those forensic exams, then in the same six months the year before. On average, 10 people a month are asking for those just in case right gets rather than talking to police immediately and it strikes me that while those numbers are very small, the impact that small things like that can have on the lives of those people in the lives of those women is quite enormous.

I want to thank every single person who works for Queensland Health for the leadership that they provide each and every day. I want to thank the organizers of this fantastic summit and of course I want to thank all of you for making it such a fantastic success. It's just wonderful to look out on this sea of faces. I hope you will go away. Truly inspired. Thank you.

One on one interviews with keynote speakers, sponsors and exhibitors

Karen Matthews

Senior Customer Relationship Manager, Benestar

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Karen: Hello I am Karen Matthews from Benestar

Pop-up radio: Karen, tell us about Benestar

Karen: Benestar is an employee assistance service and we provide service to quite a few Queensland Government Agencies and we support the mental and wellbeing of these Queensland Government Agencies and their employees.

Pop-up radio: What is your strategy to improve the wellbeing of their employees?

Karen: We’re really working with the Queensland Government Agencies to develop effortless frameworks, wellbeing as an effortless part of their employees lives whether its in cohorts across the organisation or as individuals. Wellbeing is something that has really been leveraged into work forces and we’re trying to build cultures where effortless forms part of the framework of an organisation.

Pop-up radio: In an ideal world, how would you see people in the future looking after their mental wellbeing?

Karen: So currently, it’s a really interesting question Anthony, so currently what we tend to do when we feel like we’re struggling with our mental wellbeing, we tend to wait until our backs are against the wall before we start reaching out for support. So very much we are working with organisations to introduce an intervention strategy or a preventative strategy. And there is a lot of organisations that are working really well in terms of an early interventional or preventional model. But I guess in the future state I would really love to see where we’re working within a very proactive framework. And what I mean by that is that we actually project ahead and we look at our lives and we say we are going to have a very busy six months because we might be working on extra work projects, we might have children and study etc etc and we actually start to plan for that busy period and build an infrastructure around us. So we call that entering into a state of mental fitness where we’re proactive doing something about our mental wellbeing.

Pop-up radio: How can we start to change to make mental wellbeing effortless in our work and I guess in our personal lives as well?

Karen: In the terms of effortless I think it’s really important that we start to change our language and the way we speak and look at mental health and certainly the program at Benestar is designed around making or seeking support proactively or reactively for mental health something that’s fresh, we have a program that’s fresh and approachable. We need to me it ok not to be ok at times and normalise the way we speak about mental health. So if we are developing communities where at times its ok not to be ok, we are encouraging people to reach out for strategies and being able to discuss some things that are important or happening in their lives. We are better equipping them that way to be able to get the support that they need when some of life’s more challenging things come their way.

Pop-up radio: How important is it to be at a Summit such as this?

Karen: Its incredibly important to be at a Summit like this we actively work across Queensland Government to increase the wellbeing of all employees. In particular we work with Queensland Government agencies to improve diversity and inclusion and we actively hold forums ourselves on building inclusive workplaces. So we definitely see ourselves as a partner for all of Queensland Government agencies to inspire women in the workplace.

Pop-up radio: And what sort of feedback do you get from those who utilise Benestar.

Karen: Often it’s a sigh of relief, so certainly people are using our program in a reactive sense. Often it’s a sense of relief to actually feel supported. I think if we can start to sue the program a bit more proactively and we take some mature strategies around with us in our lives, I think we are able to better manage our situations and better manage our relationships whether at work or at home and feel empowered by them. So I think if we’ve got good strategies with everything in life, we have more positive outlook on life as well.

Pop-up radio: So it would be true to say that everyone is different, they come from all walks of life, different values, different ways of handling issues, different family values all of that?

Karen: Yeah look absolutely and I think that’s where engaging in support is really important because it’s a non-judgemental environment and I think sometimes in our workplaces or around our family and friends they are great for us to communicate with about what’s going on in our lives but sometimes there is, they don’t provide the non-judgemental format that’s like something like engaging with an employee systems program does. There is absolutely no judgement and its absolutely relevant to the individual that’s coming in the door

Pop-up radio: For those listening how best to get in touch with Benestar?

Karen: If we are the provider of your employee assistance program, we have one number 1300 360 364. But all organisations will have full details on how to contact Benestar and we are also on stand 19 if you would like to come and visit us.

Hamish Bessant

Chair of the whole-of-government LGBTIQ+ committee

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Hamish: I’m Hamish Bessant and I’m the chair of the Queensland Public Sector LGBTIQ+ Steering Committee and it’s an absolute privilege to be working in the LGBTIQ+ space within the Queensland Government. I’ve been a Queensland Government employee since I was at Uni I used to study during the night and work during the day as an Admin Officer, so I have been around the Government many years and I’ve seen the power that diversity and inclusion can have in empowering our employees to bring their whole selves to work.

Pop-up radio: Hamish, what is the role of the network within the Government?

Hamish: Our network is a safe place where any employee can be a member of the LGQTIQ+ community or you can be an ally and connect with one another. Ideally government agencies will have their own networks and Queensland Health has recently launched their own network and they have close to 1000 members now which is fantastic. But government agencies that don’t have an LGBTIQ+ network, ours fills the gap. So we encourage anyone from right across Queensland come an join and be part of it. And really the benefits of being part of the network are that you are part of a family as such you get to connect with one another but you also get to be part of events, training opportunities, you get to wear your rainbow lanyards with pride and the challenges that we have though are often that those rainbow lanyards are very south eat Queensland focused. So we are really committed to getting out of the South East Queensland bubble and connecting with our LGBTIQ+ people right across the state all up the north and out west.

Pop-up radio: That’s good to know that this network mostly based in Brisbane reaches out to all corners of Queensland.

Hamish: Yeah, absolutely its imperative that we aren’t just seen as a Brisbane, you know in the tower of power at 1 William Street we actually try and get out and about as much as we can. But there is a balancing act, you know we employees often out in rural or northern regional areas don’t always feels safe to be out be their whole selves, that’s something we are working to change. We know that there is a process and some of the ways that our network is filling that gap is through training for managers and employees to become more aware of LGBTIQ+ actually really means and learn a bit more about the community. But also encouraging managers to be supportive of their LGBTIQ+ staff and understand that just like other priority groups within the government, people from non-English backgrounds or people with disabilities that all employees have value to add and all employees should be encouraged to be their whole selves.

Pop-up radio: What is some of the small things that we can change to encourage an inclusive workplace?

Hamish: So, there are some really simple things that we can do, obviously its not rocket science, thank goodness because I am certainly not a rocket scientist (laughs). It comes down to understanding the different elements of our community so spending a little bit of time to research what LGBTIQ really means. Obviously, the acronym stands for different members within our community. Understanding that people are bisexual, people are transgender, people are intersex and what that really means. Also being aware that when you are wearing a symbol like a rainbow lanyard it means that people come up to you and ask you some questions and you are a safe place that other members around you can come to and get support. Being a supportive and inclusive person who is aware of the colleagues that they have is a perfect start for any employee.

Pop-up radio: You talked about being part of a network and attending functions, event and being part of a group of people not only in Brisbane but around Queensland. For you, how has it helped you?

Hamish: It’s been life changing actually, to be able to connect with other LGBTIQ+ public servants. The public service is a very old and well engrained institution and as it needs to be, there is good reason for that. But when you are one member of a huge organisation often you can feel a little bit isolated and a little bit disconnected from other people who are like you. So being able to find the LGBTIQ+ network its really given me a chance to connect with others who share my values and have had similar experiences to me.  And that’s created a little community of practice where we can share what’s good, what we can do better and try and come up with some solutions that would benefit our community.

Pop-up radio: And for those listening to this podcast if they would like more information or perhaps become part of the network, how best to do that?

Hamish: We have a website on the so if you go onto LGBTIQ+ our webpage comes up and on there you will be able to find a whole raft of resources for employees and managers. You will also be able to subscribe to our monthly newsletter, so we send that out we currently have about 1000 people that have subscribed which is great. We would love to have more. We showcase all of the great LGBTIQ+ work happening in the government and we really welcome people to send in submissions to let us know about some things we might not be aware of.

Pop-up radio: And to be here at the Aspiring Women Leaders’ Summit how important is that?

Hamish: Oh, it’s incredible. The Summit has taken many forms over the years. It’s moved from being about empowering and building up our female leaders which is incredibly important right through to where we are today which is about building up and empowering all members of our community. And it’s great to see that there is LGBTIQ+ reference within that. We have a great stall here at the Summit and it is a real privilege to be a part of it.

Pop-up radio: Thanks for your time.

Hamish: Thank you.

Megan Ashenden

Megan Ashenden, Member Education Officer, QSuper

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Megan: Hi me name is Megan and I am a Member Education Officer with QSuper. So my job is really to be a translator in terms of explaining super rules and the complexities and make the every day person understand, what that means for themselves.

Pop-up radio: Megan how can QSuper assist with employee wellbeing?

Megan: Well QSuper is absolutely a partnership with our employer base being largely Queensland Government. We are the default fund for those employees, the majority and we have a really important role in terms of delivering education to our employees throughout the state in a manner that is suitable for them. Whether or not that is a face to face seminars, digital fit modules. We can assist with articles for staff newsletters. We attend a lot of conference and self development days, you name it, if your staff need education around super and finances we can help bridge that gap. We all know that a engaged employee, there are absolute correlations between financial wellbeing and security and confidence that leads to an engaged and happy workforce. So there is synergies between QSuper and the employee to ensure that their employees are happy and confident and looking forward to life.

Pop-up radio: Is there a gender imbalance in super these days?

Megan: Absolutely, unfortunately there is a gender imbalance which is not to say that things aren’t improving, there is absolutely some good things happening but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know women are under represented in economic outputs and they tend to work less part time or casual jobs type of thing. There is a pay gap and women are typically the ones that have extended period out of the workforce raising children and we are commonly seeing assisting with aging parents. Superannuation is a percentage of salary so it stands to reason if you don’t earn as much you are not receiving as much super. Not to mention to flow on effects from compounding investment earnings over time. So yes unfortunately there is a gender gap and we are not going to be able to solve that straight away there is no magic bullet but that is where education, knowledge and empowerment is so important. Taking those next steps to make the best of your situation to improve things for the future.

Pop-up radio: What should we be doing to keep our super working hard?

Megan: Absolutely, so the first thing is take an interest. If you receive letters or you receive emails from your super fund please read them, open them. And if you don’t understand, and I get that call us. It is our job to try and understand or explain things for you so take some interest, it is your money after all. I cannot stress that enough. Other than that though some really simple tips are, make sure that you are getting your contributions right. Things like salary sacrificing can you pay less tax and contribute more to super? That can be a bit of a no brainer. Reviewing your investment strategy and making some changes there making sure that you are achieving your long term goals. Also review your insurance you more than likely have insurance through your super fund, take an interest in that and make sure you and your family are protected. Then of course there is things like if you have other super funds out there, very very common particularly amongst women having multiple super funds potentially look at consolidating them into one. Three easy tips, get your contributions right, check how you’re invested and review your insurance. That’s something that anyone of any age can sort of – quick wins and that can make a massive difference in the long term.

Pop-up radio: Megan it’s a fact of life we are all going to get older if we are in the same workforce or if we make changes, often we can take our super with us. For those that are thinking of retirement in the near future, what should they be thinking about when it comes to super?

Megan: If retirement is getting nearer on the cards, trying to get track of do you have enough and what do you need to do to get you from where you currently are to where you’d like to be. You may have one, two, three four or five working years ahead of you. It is never ever too late to make some changes. I would suggest that if you are really getting a bit closer to the pointy end of the timeline look at seeking some personal advice because what is right for one person isn’t necessarily going to correlate to the next person. But information and education, start asking questions, so it might be attending a QSuper retirement preparation seminar which we run right across the state. Learn the knowledge and then put into plan those next steps. Rome wasn’t built in a day as they always say. Its about those next step and those next steps and if you break it down what might seem really over whelming or too hard, can actually be quite easy. But we’re here to help you on that journey. That’s everything that QSuper is about and we’ve been doing this for over 100 years, so we would love to help you.

Pop-up radio: So for those listening to this podcast and would like more information, how best to do that?

Megan: So that’s really easy there is a couple of ways, jump on our website or call our contact centre now on 1300 360 750 or send us an email

Pop-up radio: Megan thanks for your time!

Megan: Thank you!

Dr Dee Gibbon

Associate Director of Workplace Diversity and Inclusion at The University of Queensland

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Aunty Lesley Williams

Author and Cultural Advisor & Ruby Wharton, Indigenous Activist

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Dr Alex Markwell

Chair of the Queensland Clinical Senate and founding member of Wellness Resilience

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Fiona Hodges

Strategic Partnership Manager, Orange Sky

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Ian Healy

Former Australian Cricketer

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Julie McKay

Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer, PwC

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Robyn Littlewood

Chief Executive, Health and Wellbeing Queensland

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Rosie Mansfield and Adrian Richardson

Good Chef Bad Chef

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Pop up radio: Adrian and Rosie welcome to the Aspiring Women Leaders’ Summit and congratulations on your presentation you had them captivated there.

Rosie: Oh, did we, fantastic, that’s all we wanted really.

Adrian: I thought they were sleeping, I don’t know, captivated that’s a good word. We kept them locked in until they had to pay attention, or we weren’t going to let them out and there’s no booze until they watched us, so that what it is, that’s why they paid attention.

Rosie: what they don’t know was there was no choice in it.

Pop up radio: Where’s there’s food there are crowds, that what I always say. But it was an important message, it was about food, but it was about saying healthy and you can do both can’t you.

Rosie: Very much so, food it meant to be enjoyed but if we try to nourish ourselves as well. But it’s about balance, that’s really what it’s all about and its my job as a nutritionist that’s really all I do is teach people about balance because you can have it all.

Pop up radio: Why do so many people get it wrong.

Rosie: I think they’re confused, its noisy out there about what is right and what it is wrong, and I think we over complicate it, and that why people get it wrong really. If we tune back into our bodies and what our bodies want, they crave the things you know that we need to nourish ourselves so simple as that.

Pop up radio: Adrian I love food but I’m a hopeless cook and I had a mother who brought me up with her beautiful dishes that she created but it never rubbed off on me, what’s wrong with me?

Adrian: Your poor mother she must be so disappointed.

Pop up radio: No, she loves to cook for me still.

Adrian: You know what, some people who have it and some people don’t. And you know I say to people if you can pick up five dishes, five dishes that you can cook yourself, simple dishes and learn to master them and stick to them and some people if you want to go further there is a lot to it. But I’m sounding like we should go back to your mums place cause she sounds like she could cook and I love that. I love home cooking. I mean as a professional chef I cook in restaurants I cook with amazing chefs, but I tell you what some of the most amazing food that is cooked and made at home. I think that much more love and soul and I can tell you what a lot more flavour.

Pop up radio: So, what did you whip up today.

Adrian: I made 2 dishes, one was the ricotta gnocchi, something really simple that we were able to put together really easily, with some asparagus and some zucchini, lots of herbs in there, nice big dollop of butter, we love that one and some pecorino cheese on top. Simple and fresh and it’s a dish you can put together in minutes. We made it look a little bit quicker cause we have things set up, but that’s how easy it is.

And then to top it off with a desert was a really quick and simple chocolate mousse that you can make for the kids. And we went a little bit overboard with some of the berries and some of the other things we put on it, but they were the two simple dishes that I did.

Pop up radio: Rosie for those who eating habits are not too good how do you make that change.

Rosie: Don’t make too many changes at once, so that’s it, one change a week is the way I do it. So back when I was doing clinic, I used to only ever tell people to do one thing, ok, and also to introduce one new thing and one new something else, how are you going to know what’s working for you so its actually about slowing it down and again listening to your body, see this is the key here that we have forgotten to do is start listening to our body, but yeah keep it nice and simple and don’t be too hard on yourself. If you, you know there is 24 hours in a day and if you go a bit wrong one day you get back on the horse the next, like don’t set that as the presidency and you just keep going down and downward spiral then just clean yourself back up and yeah I guess its just a bit of positive self-talk.

Adrian: I follow that philosophy I only change my undies once a week. That’s all I do.

Rosie: I thought so (laughter)

Pop up radio: What are you hoping the audience will take away from your presentation today.

Rosie: I wanted to just try, there are all these different things you know Uber eats and Deliveroo, and things making eating very well easy, if we don’t cook that will die and it’s a beautiful art and its actually more about well loving yourself and loving other people by still cooking and making sure you learn to cook cause it is very easy, right Adrian, to not actually learn to cook anymore and I really think we need to keep that alive so I think that was just showing how simple it can be.

Adrian: I think in days where kids have their parents Uber accounts so they can get food/anything delivery any time of the day or night it’s sort of taking away from cooking and I think you can just teach people it is simple and it can be fun and it’s a matter of adding a few fresh herbs, a little bit of lemon zest, little bit of cheese on top. You know maybe picking simple ingredients and simple recipes to be able to put dishes together. Now you can’t do it all the time but as you said, learn one, one dish a week, that’s all you need to do.

Pop up radio: Rosie you mentioned about listening to your body what do you mean by that.

Rosie: So, listen to your body means one of the greatest tools we have as a nutritionist is food diaries, so we can so blindly and unconsciously we are so busy right that unless we are really meditating like a monk we don’t really know what every action is, I think a lot of us are unconsciously eating things and thinking we are healthy and we are, but sometimes when we do a food diary it’s a very simple thing to do once a month and you are just making yourself accountable and you can really create good change there.

Pop up radio: Alright I have a challenge for you, eating at home is fine, eating at work can be really, really stressful because for whatever reasons at the start of the day you can’t prep and you end up having a hamburger or you don’t eat at all or you use the vending machines so how do we change the minds, lets go to your first Rosie.

Rosie: well that’s not for us, we have a lovely time when we go to work and have our lunch, I think preparation is key but it’s making it a priority. I find it so funny people go to the gym five days a week, yet they won’t spend a Sunday afternoon preparing the food that they have to eat three times a day, if not five times a day. I think its just honouring that it’s a really important vital part of your life and putting it up the priority list because you deserve to eat good food, it’s a simple as that.

Adrian: Well my office is above the kitchen in my restaurant so I have basically rooms service 24/7, and you know having a couple of oysters whatever you want, but um I think you know when I look at eating simply this is what we should be doing more of you know you can go buy a cucumber and tomatoes, maybe a little bit of mayonnaise some butter, some apples and fruit. If you have that together and buy a little bit of fresh bread, that’s a great little meal and its about eating more vegetables and more, more I shouldn’t be saying it but more fruit and vegetables in your diet, you don’t have to cut and prepare it just take it to work put it in the fridge maybe event take a little salami and cut it up on a little board. Just keeping it simple like that is a great way of doing it and don’t think too much about it, the supermarket has everything there for you to eat, nuts and berries and those sorts of things. That’s all you need for a health balanced diet and you can fill yourself up on it and one of the things I tell people is drink more water. We don’t drink enough water. You know you should be drinking at least a litre of water before midday at least and then another litre as well and you will find that, that will fill you up and take away the anxiety of wanting to eat a lot of food and I think you will eat less and you will eat a lot more nutritionally as well.

Pop up radio: The guest are making their way out of the Plaza Ballroom as we speak no doubt they will be wanting photographs and autographs of each of you I’ll let you go. Thank you so much for being part of the Summit and congratulations on what you do keeping us healthy and reminding us that food it easy and cooking is easy and I might even try tonight and cook something been a long time in the kitchen

Adrian: Send me the photo of it and I promise I wont laugh.

Interviews with Summit delegates

Delegate reaction to the morning sessions

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Delegate reaction to the speakers

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Delegates on 'What I am taking away this year?'

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Delegates on 'What to expect today'

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Last updated: 2 April 2020